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3DHS / Re: Grave of the Fireflies, 1942 movie reviews
« on: August 18, 2010, 03:13:51 PM »
Busby Berkeley. The man's name was Busby Berkeley.
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Racism is often the end result of irrational prejudice and/ or fear.
Perhaps in the context of immigration specifically from the southern borders you could explain how these irrational prejudices and or fears would produce a different result. What specific irrational prejudices and fears are you referring to?
I see your understanding to be understanding only half of the situation , the reciprocal of your position is also true.
If we restrict any sort of person or comodity even if only mildly , the restricted element will migrate through any chink in the fence.
So you want the restrictions against border crossing without official permissions to be strictly enforced?
Without a good fence submitting application becomes ,practicly, optional.
The claims that immigration laws are racist [...] or that the demand that laws on the books be enforced is de facto proof of racism is just pure bullshit.
or that they are akin to segregation laws
Colored drinking fountain, my ass.
The US is the last country that will ever have closed borders.
But no, that's not a policy of a closed border,
Oh come on SIRS...lots of murders still happen even with the laws in place...
so golly gee our murder laws must be unjust!
My premise isn't flawed because you don't accept it. And I have yet to see an argument as to why the current immigration laws are just. So far all anyone seems to be able to muster up is that the law should be obeyed because it's the law. But that simply is not good enough. ("I would agree with St. Augustine that 'an unjust law is no law at all.'")
That's based on your opinion of being unjust. Your say so, however doesn't make them so. That's why your question isn't addressed to your satisfaction, because those you argue with on this topic, have not accepted your position that they are unjust, in the 1st place. So, since the premice is already flawed, as it relates to immigration, you're never going to accept any answer.
I was not aware just and unjust were matters of popular opinion. You seem to have a strange and troubling notion of what makes something just or unjust.
But, if we want to address the question in a generic term, subtracting the immigration component, then you have to have a concensus that the law in question is unjust.
As I said before, I cannot blame them for breaking the law any more than I could have blamed a thirsty black man drinking from a "whites only" water fountain in the 1950s.
And when they are, then yes, the probvlem is the law, & the formula is legislative change, not simply breaking them, because they've been deemed unjust by........X
As I have said before many times, I am fully in favor of government keeping known criminals and diseased people out of the country.
Not unless you are in favor all immagrants submitting a leagal application you are not.
If you don't favor giveing the government a chance to examine the record and health of all immagrants you are not in favor of excludeing the ones who won't submit themselves to examination.
We have immigration laws, and we have a process to change them. In the meantime we have an illegals problem, who are entering the country illegally under current law.
What physics has to do with this, i do not know.