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3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 16, 2011, 06:40:36 PM »
<<So POWERFULL that it must be veiled in codes so impenitrable that only the very astute can tell it is there>>

Any moron can read the codes.  They exist to provide a degree of social acceptability to the users, not to hide their message from ordinary Americans.

I chose to answer only the most egregiously absurd point in the above post, as I suddenly realized that I could spend the rest of my life answering these ludicrous allegations and still have to deal with more and more racist bullshit.  Fortunately, as it turns out, I have better things to do with my time, so I am leaving the last word on the subject to the real racists, which I should have done the very first time I was accused by racists of racism.

3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 16, 2011, 06:34:46 PM »
<<because you slur black men based on the color of their skin. >>

And THAT, my friends, is the exact equivalent of claiming that a Nazi collaborator is "slurred" on the basis of his nationality simply for choosing to go against his country's interests and supporting the occupiers.  Does he not have free will to choose to support the Nazis, the oppressors of his own people?  Surely all Norwegians don't have to fall into lock-step with the anti-Nazi resistance.  They can think for themselves.  This one did.  But here is Tee slandering him for his choice of pro-Naziism where the rest of his group are anti-Nazi.  Tee can't stand it that a Norwegian dares to think for himself, yadda yadda yadda and on and on and on.

You guys are sucked into crazy thinking because you can't stand that your own Uncle Toms are called out for betraying blacks to the racist GOP.  You enlist sophistry but don't get that the people you are trying your sophistry on are just too smart to fall for any of it.  The real racists remain as they always were, you and the GOP and the antiracists as they always were, XO and I.

3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 16, 2011, 05:18:56 PM »
<<Who else?  YOU (are the racist.)>>

Nice try.  Lessee, don't have no Southern Strategy, don't call nobody "macaca," don't wish Strom Thurmond had been President, wouldn't even want to be in the same party as Strom Thurmond, don't think the majority of blacks are "brainwashed," don't hesitate to call out an Uncle Tom in front of his racist patrons, don't respond positively to Willie Horton ads and wouldn't seek the support of anyone who did, don't talk about "welfare queens," don't want monuments to Confederate "heroes," don't support public display of Confederate flags,  . . .

OK, I give up.  I'm a "racist" because . . . ?

3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 16, 2011, 04:30:58 PM »
<<He [LBJ] was referring to Democrats.>>

Yes, and WHO did he think the Democrats were losing the South TO?

<<How was that [Goldwater's Southern Strategy] racist?>>

It aimed to lure racist white Democrats to the GOP based on their disgust with the Dems for passing the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.

<<Most people on welfare are white.>>

But the blacks were disproportionately represented on the welfare rolls.  And the "welfare queen" of the inner city is definitely a racist caricature.

<<Al Gore originated [the Willie Horton ads.]>>

What bullshit.  Al Gore bbrought up the case in an abstract non-racial manner without personalizing it or even naming Willie Horton, let alone identifying him as a black man, during a debate on prison policy. It was Roger Ailes and the GOP which gave Horton a face (black of course) and engineered the entire GOP advertising campaign built around him on a theme of fear of blacks.

<<How is that [Nixon's war on drugs] racist?  Don't want to do the time, don't do the crime.>>

It's racist because it's just an excuse to incarcerate, humiliate and intimidate millions of black youths for a victimless crime akin to drinking or overindulgence in alcohol.  It's also blatantly racist in the way it's selectively enforced, as numerous studies have previously determined.

<<Was the owner [of Niggerhead]a Republican?>>

Who gives a shit?  It was Perry who used the place and Perry who had no fucking concern at all about the name, till it surfaced as a media issue.

<<Perry's daddy who leased the [Niggerhead] property wasn't [a Republican.]>>

Who gives a shit about the daddy, what's he running for?  But sure as hell he was a fucking racist pig and obviously a major source of Perry's racism.  The apple don't fall far from the tree.

<<He was saying blacks should think for themselves and act accordingly.>>

That's hilarious.  I watched the tape.  He was sayinig BLACKS ARE BRAINWASHED,and giving that as the reason they weren't voting GOP.  But maybe in your alternative universe, he was saying something else.

<<You are saying blacks shouldn't [think for themselves and act accordingly . . .>>

Still more bullshit.  You put words into Cain's mouth, and now you put them in mine.  No I did not say blacks shouldn't think for themselves, I said that most of them recognize where their own best interests lie and vote accordingly, i.e., AGAINST the GOP.

<< . . . so who is the racist?>>

Obviously, you and the GOP.  Who else?

3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 16, 2011, 12:59:46 PM »
Prove what?  That racism is still a powerful force in America?  OK, incarceration stats, convicted felon ineligibility to vote laws and the selective enforcement thereof, unemployment stats, arrest stats, housing stats, public health stats.  Problem is, I am not a sociologist.  But every time I have seen any stats published on anything that classed by race, the blacks always come out way, way, way behind.

Prove that the GOP is the major guardian of racism in America?  LBJ's comment at the passage of the Voting Rights Act ("We've lost the South for a generation,") the GOP Southern Strategy of Barry Goldwater, the "Welfare Queen" propaganda of the Reagan era, the "Willie Horton" ads, Nixon's war on drugs, Rick Perry's "Niggerhead" retreat, Senator Macacawitz'  (George Allen's) "macaca" remark, Trent Lott's regrets over Strom Thurmond's Presidential election failure, Herm the Perv's remarks about "brainwashed" black majorities, Haley Barbour's defence of White Citizens Councils, jeeeeziz man, the list goes on and on . . .

3DHS / Re: Gingrich takes lead nationally! (shocking to me)
« on: November 16, 2011, 12:08:40 PM »
Well, thanks for the clarification, but I still don't think that the good folks of South Carolina are going to be thrilled with a guy whose bottom line is more Mexicans in State colleges., some of them being illegals or the children of illegals.  Also his flip-flop on abortion rights has to lead to additional drag on his engine.  They'd be happier with a True Believer.  I can see the Newt and even Crazy Eyes pulling ahead of Perry in SC.  The Perv would be ideal for South Carolinians if it weren't for the colour of his skin and his alleged sexual harassment of white women.

3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 16, 2011, 11:55:46 AM »
sirs, I just gave you a very logical explanation of what reverse racism is, but I see that you're up to your old tricks of creative word definitions.  You're almost as funny as your idol, the Herminator (see, I knew there was a a-GREEE-mint, but you askin me bout a SETTLE-mint) but you've been doing it as long as I can remember, so why stop now?  BTW, LOOK!!!  Free shot!  I made fun of The Perv's accent, that's GOTTA be racist, only the KKK do that any more, Tee's a Klansman.  Go for it, sirs, now you can PROVE I'm a "racist!"

I also noted your "Don't do the crime" as your even more ludicrous alternative explanation (to racism) for the prison pop stats.  Now I'm just waiting for your "liberals made them do it" as the alternative explanation to the genetic racial criminality that's a necessary inference from your "don't do the crime" nonsense.   You guys think everyone's dumb enough to buy into your first clumsy attempt to deny the problem, so of course you're totally unprepared for the next question, which leads you deeper and deeper into a morass of racism and absurdity.  But keep it up, it's kind of amusing to watch you try to wriggle your way out of this quagmire.

<<Tee, whether you racist loons on the left like it or not, you're only fooling yourself big boy, and will consistently be prodded over your racist coals, as you keep spewing it>>

sirs has followed the careers of many top comedians, and obviously believes in the old adage, "Always leave 'em laughing."  Thanks, sirs, you're a trouper.

3DHS / Re: Gingrich takes lead nationally! (shocking to me)
« on: November 16, 2011, 07:52:55 AM »
Did I get it wrong?  I thought (based, I admit, on how other candidates have characterized this) that he favoured the public education of the children of illegal immigrants in JK to 12 whether or not the kids were born in the USA.  Which I happened to agree with, but figured it would give the good folks of South Carolina some major burst blood vessels.

3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 16, 2011, 07:46:50 AM »
<<That's called reverse racism Tee.>>

You obviously have no idea what reverse racism means, sirs.  Reverse racism is where members of the victimized race develop their own racial theories according to which THEY are the superior race and their oppressors are the inferior race.  A good example of this would be the religion (can't think of the name of it right now) holding that whites are the result of an experiment gone wrong by an evil scientist named Yakoob, and are referred to as "blue-eyed devils."  That is exactly what reverse racism is.

<<  Racism is racism, whether its a majority of 1 race supporting their over all others, or a minority of 1 race, supporting their race over all others.  >>

It's amazing how GOP racists like you think you can twist the truth around 180 degrees just by switching one single word; try taking out "supporting" and inserting instead "seeking the dominance of" and you'd pretty much have it right.

<<News flash, racism is a fraction of the problem it was, back in the early to mid 1900's.>>

That's not the issue, the issue is what fraction?  I say it's still a major factor in American life, but that since the theory of racism (legalized white supremacy) has been pretty much discredited, racists work in covert ways on issues that resonate with racists and have racist effects, the end-goal of which is the domination of blacks under a facade of what BT calls the "post-racial society."  These covert ways include disenfranchisement through "convicted felon" eligibility rules and the selective enforcement thereof (one of the major tools used to steal the 2000 Presidential "elections;") the so-called "war on drugs," essentially a war on blacks; welfare "reform," and others.  The fight against racism goes on, but under different names.  Most of America's foreign aggressions are committed against darker-skinned peoples rather than Europeans and are justified in the eyes of many Americans as the killing of mere "ragheads" or, formerly, "gooks."  In the absence of widespread racism, America's massacres and atrocities abroad would have found much less acceptance at home.

<<Blacks have as much freedom as the majority, as well as any other "minority". >>

Bullshit.  Checked out any prison population stats lately?  Blacks are incarcerated at a huge rate compared to whites, and disenfranchised after serving their terms too, in very large numbers.  These trends will only increase under racist GOP policies, as will the ethnic cleansing of the Southwest through the anti-immigrant campaign known as "immigration reform."  Check out the unemployment stats as well while you're at it.  Blacks are fucked up the ass by white racist America, and nobody is doing more than the racist GOP to see that this will continue for as long as they (with major assists from their Uncle Toms) are able to continue it.  What's funny is to see how the GOP simultaneously pushes racism under other names and policies, while crowing over the "huge advances" in civil rights, which were a Democratic accomplishment of Democratic statesmen like LBJ and the Democratic Party.  That's hilarious.

<<Those that target blacks, or any other minority, with hateful rhetoric, are consistently condemned, and denounced, by all, including tea party folk. >>

Dontcha love how they cleaned up all their racist signs?  In the beginning they were at every TP rally, now you really can't find them anywhere.  I give the TP high marks for message control.  If you don't speak their code, stay away from their rallies.  They deal in racist policies, not racist slogans.

<< Those that target a person with vulgar racist rhetoric based on their skin color are equally called out for such.  Current saloon patron included>>

sirs, whether you racist GOP like it or not, anti-racists will continue to call an Uncle Tom an Uncle Tom and laugh off the attempts of the real racists to brand others who fight their racism as "racists."  It's totally in line with your Bizarro World politics, in which America is a peace-loving democracy that "defends itself" against midget countries with no viable means of defending themselves against, let alone attacking, the USA.  Everything in your world is upside-down in relation to the way things really are, so if I'm a "racist" in your eyes, that's perfectly OK with me.  Wouldn't have it any other way.

3DHS / Re: Gingrich takes lead nationally! (shocking to me)
« on: November 16, 2011, 02:37:42 AM »
<<I think rumors of Perry's demise are premature. He needs to finish in the top 3 in Iowa, same with NH and then no less than 2nd in SC. He has the money to do that. And he is a good retail politician.>>

Well, that's more or less what I referred to as a miracle.  Top 3 in Iowa and NH would still leave the guy hanging on by his fingernails and 2nd in SC with his tuition for immigrants' kids?  If that ain't a miracle then I don't know shit about miracles.

3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 16, 2011, 02:31:05 AM »
<<If a white man were to support his race, above all others, he'd be referred to as a racist.  Someone that actually doesn't embrace "race 1st", is the embodyment of MLK's dream, where it was character that mattered.  Your position equates to the KKK position......just advocating a different color>>

That's not a bad point, but it was already posed by another poster in a different thread, where I answered it.  The true interests of a majority race in a democratic society is not the oppression of other races (which leads only to civil strife) but in harmonious and fair relations between the races.  Thus a KKK, in seeking continued white supremacy, is actually acting against the interests of the white majority that he claims to be fighting for.  The interests of the minority race, of course, is to throw off the last vestiges of racist oppression and speed the day of equality and fairness for all.

In a somewhat related vein, the so-called "post-racial society" that BT refers to is pure bullshit.  There is no such thing as "post-racial society" because racism still exists as a powerful force in U.S. society, the major guardian of which is now the GOP.  Hence, the same phony claims to a post-racial society are part of the same propaganda offensive in which Uncle Toms like the Herminator play an important role,both  attempting to convince the anti-racist forces of America to abandon the struggle because they have already won.  The vast majority of American blacks, of course, are not dumb enough to fall for this kind of BS, which is why Toms like Cain claim that they are "brainwashed."

3DHS / Re: Gingrich takes lead nationally! (shocking to me)
« on: November 16, 2011, 02:11:23 AM »
<<In July Romney was at 20%, in August at 20%, in September at 18%, October at 22%, and now in November at 18%.  He's been at 20 +/-2% for the last five months in our polling.>>

The above is what I can't reconcile with the notion of Romney's support being soft.  It's stable at about 20%, which means that his supporters are staying with him regardless of the ups and downs of the other candidates.    The other candidates (by definition, the ABR bloc) seem to be trading support amongst themselves within a closed (ABR) system.  One or more of the ABRs must drop in order for Newt to rise.  Perry doesn't have much further to fall.  As between Cain and Gingrich, assuming no major bombshells hit the Newtster, Cain is a lot more likely to further haemorrhage support, as the recent Libyan flub mixes in with continuing fall-out from his sexual harassment problems.  That lost support, IMHO, seems likeliest to end up on Newt's side, pushing him higher against both Romney and Cain. 

Perry, at this point, looks like a lost cause, having sunk too far too fast.  I can't even think what kind of unexpected event might restore his chances.

<<Michael if you notice no matter who falls Romney never really gains.
that's why I agree his support is somewhat soft at this point. >>

Yes, that was my point exactly, except that I call that kind of support stable rather than soft.  Romney seems stuck under a glass ceiling, but under that ceiling, his support is pretty much unwavering and unaffected by the ups and downs of the ABR candidates.  IMHO, one of the key reasons he's stuck there is that the Tea Party and ultra-conservative wings of the party just don't trust him as a conservative, hence the ABR sentiment in the first place.  So I think at this point, where Mitt is (say about 20%) is about as high as he's ever gonna get.  For Mitt to win, the remaining ABR majors are going to have to self-destruct.  Perry's already well on the way, and Cain now seems to be going the same way, but I can't see it happening to Newt, who I also see as the main beneficiary of lost Cain support and probably of lost Perry support as well.

The negatives on Newt that I see coming from both XO and BT are real enough, but they seem to operate only within the GOP hierarchy, rather than the rank and file.  When the rank and file watch the debates, they see Newt as the smartest guy in the room, and they don't give a shit or perhaps don't even know that he's considered an ass-hole in some circles.

As for winning Ohio and Pennsylvania, I agree that Mitt would have had the best chance, but it ain't gonna happen.  The Tea Party doesn't trust Mitt's conservative credentials and he's not even going to get a chance to bust open either of them.

3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 16, 2011, 12:26:49 AM »
<<A Uncle Tom serves himself. Just like white people can. It's called liberty.>>

You might as well claim that Vidkun Quisling was serving himself just like Norwegian resistance fighters could.  When serving yourself means serving the oppressors of your own people, then a line has been crossed.  When a Norwegian crosses it, he's a quisling.  When an American black man crosses it, he's an uncle Tom.


You'll just have to excuse me if I don't take accusations of racism from GOP supporters too seriously.  LMFAO, in fact.

3DHS / Re: Gingrich takes lead nationally! (shocking to me)
« on: November 15, 2011, 09:34:53 PM »
<<What the polls are really telling us is that Romneys support is soft . . . >>

How so?  How I read the numbers was that Romney support declined only slightly, while Gingrich's shot up, at least in part due to disenchanted Perv supporters, whose support was shown to be much more likely to go pro-Newt than pro-Romney.

The problem that I can't figure out is how to account for that portion of Newt's gain that can't be chalked up to disappointed Perv followers.  Do you simply add in support from other candidates' followers jumping as their respective ships are sinking?

Newt is a real ass-hole but seems to have mastered the art of looking smart.  Whatever he's doing, it's powerful.

3DHS / Re: Cain has "all this stuff twirling around in his head".
« on: November 15, 2011, 09:21:36 PM »
<<Right. Hurl slurs at a black man who doesn't know his place. Might as well call him uppity. >>

An Uncle Tom serves the white racist GOP at the expense of his own people, so exposing him for what he is is an anti-racist action.  This shouldn't be rocket science, but at the same time, I can't say that I'm exactly surprised by your inability to grasp such a simple fact.

<<You must be in South Canada. >>

Well even southern Ontario is north of the Deep South.

It's hilarious how you guys from the racist GOP are slamming ME as a racist.  Talk about Bizarro World, man, you guys INVENTED it.

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