DebateGate

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/there-are-4000-people-in-a-half-mile-voting-line-in-cincinnati-today-this-isn%e2%80%99t-ok/ar-AAjYInB?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE12DHP


Is it good to have the maximum number of people feel that they matter and are involved?


Is it good to have all the most ignorant and apathetic exert their influence ?


Sure a high turnout is expensive and inconvenient and prone to elect the least common denominator, but it is good for the democracy overall. The people get used to exercise of the franchise and feel more involved , more invested more motivated to understand the issues and evaluate the service of the elected.

Cities with big populations ought to be prepared for full turnout, when there is less than expected this causes waste, but when turnout is a lot higher than anticipated the waste of people standing in line for extended waits is a much greater waste. There ought to be a penalty placed on a municipality entity responsible for excessive wait in these lines.

What if the State or county were assessed minimum wage to pay to everyone that had a longer than three hour wait?

http://one.npr.org/?sharedMediaId=497087364:497126875

Hillary's response to pipeline protest.

We received a letter today from representatives of the tribes protesting the construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline. From the beginning of this campaign, Secretary Clinton has been clear that she thinks all voices should be heard and all views considered in federal infrastructure projects. Now, all of the parties involved—including the federal government, the pipeline company and contractors, the state of North Dakota, and the tribes—need to find a path forward that serves the broadest public interest. As that happens, it's important that on the ground in North Dakota, everyone respects demonstrators' rights to protest peacefully, and workers' rights to do their jobs safely.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/10/28/what-crock-clinton-breaks-dapl-silence-statement-says-literally-nothing

     "In other words, I’m willing to bet my life that the “monster” view of Trump is an illusion. "       - Scott Adams

You want that in context don't you?

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152115888936/the-crook-versus-the-monster

http://reason.com/reasontv/2016/10/21/mike-rowe-wears-trumps-robe#comment

Mike has the best page in facebook.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-giant-nude-statue-in-california-is-stirring-controversy/ar-AAjdBcs?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE12DHP

   I don't see either of these people staying near the truth.

    In the comparison of misunderstanding, emotional tripe and outright lies , we will choose a leader?

     

..................she dismissed half of Mr. Trump’s followers as “racist, sexist, homophobic.” Less well noted (but more telling), she also declared them “irredeemable.”


This is an old argument for the left. But Republicans are now hearing it from the right as well. Which puts conservative Never Trumpers in a curious position vis-à-vis government of, by and for the people: Are the tens of millions of Americans who will pull the lever for Trump come November evil too, or just invincibly stupid?

 
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Give the Never Trumpers their due: Most do not shy away from the implication that anyone who would vote for Mr. Trump is as low and base as he is. Their problem is that the argument doesn’t seem to be having much traction with Republican voters. A Rasmussen poll released Monday found that while Mrs. Clinton enjoys the support of 78% of Democrats, Mr. Trump is supported by 74% of Republicans. Other polls show that even after all his fumbles and embarrassments, the vast majority of Republicans do not want Mr. Trump to drop out..........

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cheap-moralizing-of-never-trump-1476745922


   This is a pretty good short article about the attitude of the elite twards the Hoi Poloi as it seems to be right now.

     I still count myself undecided , because I never have cared for Trump, but it is hard to pass up a chance at putting a thumb in the eye of the geniuses that are running the major parties into the ground and paying no attention to the will of the people at all.

      Hillary seems to want to change our attitude , if not by reeducation then by replacement.

        Trump is rude , but he seems like much less of a threat .