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3DHS / Re: Iranian president takes on U.S at the UN
« on: September 20, 2006, 03:42:51 AM »
Was he glowing?


Last time he went he said he felt a glow that stupified the audience.

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3DHS / Re: Reporter asks hostile question about religion of Allen's mother
« on: September 20, 2006, 03:38:35 AM »
"Don't you think it's the Allen camp that is milking the Jewish mother question for all it's worth,"

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       When given a gift Cow why not milk it?

                                                                           

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3DHS / Re: Is the Hitler analogy outdated?
« on: September 19, 2006, 03:16:04 AM »

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3DHS / Re: Is the Hitler analogy outdated?
« on: September 19, 2006, 03:09:56 AM »

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3DHS / Re: Is the Hitler analogy outdated?
« on: September 19, 2006, 01:03:49 AM »
http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/Hitler.html


Dr. Suess does Hitler.

They are all good.

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3DHS / Mallard and School
« on: September 19, 2006, 12:52:06 AM »

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3DHS / I just Read the Popes Speech, Oh the shame
« on: September 19, 2006, 12:36:34 AM »
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=46474



I have been talking about it for two days , and only now I read it?

I hang my head .


Now that I have read it I understand that it is not a criticism of Islam  , it is an examination of Rationality , Religion , revilation and Logos. The Pope Quotes a Bysintene Emporer who was being questioned by a Muslim , but he also quotes Socraties .


There is no political use in actually understanding what te Pope was saying so I expect the debates and the riots will continue to be about selected quotes in isolation from the theme of the speech.

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3DHS / Re: Apparently, the Pope must die
« on: September 19, 2006, 12:15:25 AM »
What's really funny in all this is the attitude of "Gee, when someone insults Christianity, none of US go ape-shit."  Like there was no Spanish Inquisition.  Like nobody ever got burned at the stake.  Islam's a much younger religion than Christianity.  When they've been around for 2,000 years, they won't give a shit either.  Your great-great-great-etc. grandchildren can insult the living hell out of them and they'll just take another toke and go "Hey?  Whudd that infidel just say?  Thass HILARIOUS, man."



Yes they are impetuous and impatient , exactly what they claim we have as fatal weaknesses. Christianity has developed a bit in the last 600 years and you have a good point there in that they are acting like zelot Christians did about 600 years ago.

Have they got a Martin Luther or a Gallelleo?

I have a copy of "Why I am not a Muslim" but I can't tell you the author he wisely published under a pen name.

Butrand Russell didn't need to.

So .....

In your estimation how long has Christianity been so mature , and how long will Athiesim require to reach a simular maturity?

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3DHS / Re: common-sense variety of multiculturalism
« on: September 19, 2006, 12:07:25 AM »
I don't like any situation where a politician tells religious leaders what to say to their followers.  I  like it even less when the religion is a minority one and its practitioners are mostly members of a visible minority.  What's going to happen for example if they DON'T preach the government line?


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Exactly what is now happening in the US nothing really , President Bush has done a phenominal job of directing American anger at overseas targets and we havent had a repeat of the incarceration of the foreigners like WWII.
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And specifically with regard to the Muslims, they are between a rock and a hard place.  While the West is invading their homelands and killing tens of thousands, and has been robbing, exploiting and ripping them off for decades, they are expected to suddenly start denouncing Muslim extremist reaction to the crimes of the West?  Why not just denounce the crimes of the West since those are the crimes by which they as individuals are the most directly victimized?  If they in fact did as that Ozzie fascist ordered them to do, they'd lose all credibility with their own congregations and come across as sell-outs and cowards.  What self-respecting religious leader would want to put himself in that position?

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What exactly was being ripped off of whom that justified the 9-11 attack?
What is still being ripped off that makes Al Queda so eager to repeat it?
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I think the government - - any government - - should just stay the hell away from religion.  They have no business at all telling the churches or mosques what to preach.  I thought that kind of stuff went out with Nazi Germany.

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This opinion would mark you for death in some Muslim countrys but not the US or Canada , yet.

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3DHS / Re: Just Because You Got the Name, Don't Mean You Got the Game
« on: September 18, 2006, 11:58:02 PM »
Pope speech condemns terrorism
 
 
Thousands braved the cold to watch the Pope read his Christmas message
Pope John Paul II has condemned the "scourge of terrorism" in his Christmas message to crowds of worshippers in St Peter's Square in Rome.
"Save us from the great evils which rend humanity in these first years of the third millennium," he said.

"Save us from the wars and armed conflicts which lay waste to whole areas of the world."

The pontiff's speech took place amid extra security measures after warnings of possible terror attacks.

Calls for peace

The Pope, at times faltering in his address, called for an end to "the many forms of violence which assail the weak and the vulnerable".

He also exhorted all sides in the Middle East conflict to continue pressing for a solution to the violence.

"Save us from the discouragement as we face the paths to peace, difficult paths indeed, yet possible and therefore necessary," he said.

"Paths which are always and everywhere urgent, especially in the land where you were born, the prince of peace."

 
From BBC

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3DHS / Re: Just Because You Got the Name, Don't Mean You Got the Game
« on: September 18, 2006, 11:54:22 PM »
Could you speak to brother Osama, Sis?
He is still shooting at me.

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3DHS / Re: The Pope and Muslims
« on: September 18, 2006, 10:02:51 PM »
Some 200 Khamenei loyalists in the Syrian capital, Damascus, held a protest Monday at an Islamic shrine, dismissing the pope's apology. "The pope's sorrow was equivocal," read one banner.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,214318,00.html



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What really hurts is protest banners that reveil a better vocabulary than the tipical American.
I haven't ever used "Equivocal" in a sentance.

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3DHS / Re: The Pope and Muslims
« on: September 18, 2006, 09:50:17 PM »
The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/09/18/pope.islam.ap/index.html




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I think that they have a clear idea about what they want .

The Popes speech was intended to be a call for all religious leaders to renounce violence, is this really a sacriledge?

If the Pope was clumsy in makeing his point does this excuse the fury that reaches killing intensity?

Islam is supposed to be about obedience to God and peace , that is probly why we are not fighting 1.5 billion of them .

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3DHS / Re: Is the Hitler analogy outdated?
« on: September 18, 2006, 07:14:35 PM »
   I have always suspected that the Palidin Press is an FBI frount.

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3DHS / Non leathal but deadly expensive
« on: September 18, 2006, 07:13:13 PM »
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=56742886



      At auction you can get this gun that shoots plastic pellets in a stream that will discourage an attacker , or annoy him a lot.

      If someone is breaking into your home does he deserve the benefit of the doubt about whether he means harm or is harmless?

        Would you really want a wepon that causes pain but not more harm than small bruses?

       A much cheaper pistol can much more certainly halt an attack with wounds of much greater consequence.


Besides ,this pellet gun might put your eye out.

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