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I invite supporters of the "President's" policies on torture and the treatment of prisoners to answer the  question in his stead, substituting their own thoughts for his

See?  Perfect example in the misuse of the word "torture"

Yeah i agree corporations get a bad rap, mostly from class warfarists, who ran out of things to say.  Consider the majority of corporations in this country are mom and pop operations trying to eke out a living in complaince of the tax regulations.

Precisely.  Might I also add to my list the word "codeword", not often used, but when used, is nearly always misused in the attempt to distort and redefine other terms, such as "states rights"

I have always known that the NYTimes would print only portions of a document as long as those portions met the criteria of its talking points.

Boy, there's an understatement

Can you imagine President Bush behaving in such a way?

Nope.  Bush has a ton more class than this clown.  Perhaps the future will prove me wrong, but when comparing current class & civility, it's no contest.

Or more accurately, apply them when appropriate.  It's bad enough dealing with Tee's misguided hyperbolic rants of how out of control our military is, or Lanya's op-ed parade of how Bush is a war criminal, so why not actually try applying terms appropriately.

Let's start with "Torture".  There's a continued tactic of those with BDS who claim that we "torture", that the Bush administration condones "torture", that those who support our war on Terror and efforts at interrogating captured prisoners advocate "torture".  All despite the continued on-the-record proclaimations that we don't.  It sure does appear the left distorts the term "torture", in an effort to apply it to anything that may be considered "uncomfortable".  In reality however "uncomfortable" does NOT equal "torture".

I do believe that folks like Bush or those who support the war have been very up front in NOT condoning torture.  And I do beleive that term is appropriately applied to the physical personifications of torture such as the tearing of nails, breaking of bones, piercing body parts, joint dislocations, basically the stuff done to John McCain when he was a POW at the hands of the Vietcong

Sadly, it does appear that the left, in their fervor to condemn anything & everything Bush, applies "torture" to mean anything that might remotely bring discomfort or psychologocal duress to an enemy combantant.  And heaven forbid if they don't get "legal representation".  This is a war, not some criminal investigation.  The enemy has made it clear what their intentions are.  Now, you don't have to believe that, you don't have to believe Bush, you don't have to believe me.  What would be a breath of fresh air however, would be in you folks honestly applying terms, where they're appropriate.  Which includes refraining from knee jerk accusations that anyone that doesn't agree with your POV must be a supporter of "torture"

Can you folks do that?


Now, shall we move on to "tax cuts for the rich" & "states rights"?

Not that I'm aware of.  Should we go after those ruthless no-good american soldiers that did such a dispicable act against those Nazi infiltrators.  Good luck with that

I'm watching the show now, and it is pretty sad.  I ALMOST feel sorry for him

so they're only right when the administration can cherry pick them for tidbits that support their claims to convince the US to go to war, but when their conclusions point to something unfavorable to the administration, well, they can't be trusted

Who said that?  Boy that's one twisted distorted conclusion