DebateGate

So, one more time....in YOUR words, what's/where's the irony of terrorists being convicted of crimes and put to death.  Your title, your claim.  Have we (the U.S.) fraudulantly and without cause been putting Islamofascist terrorists to death?

More of that tried and true Lanya tactic of not answering direct questions, I see       

what about the ability to send people to prison without any legal representation or pressing charges for over four years. Surely that violates constitutional rights.

Enemy combatants, especially captured on non U.S. soil don't qualify for U.S. Constitutional rights, as far as I'm aware of.  And without them donning uniforms, nor do they actually qualify for Geneva convention rights, though I concede that's currently being determined by the courts.  Were prisoners taken during WWII, Vietnam, Korea, even the prior Gulf wars given some Constitutional protections & immediate legal representation?  One more time for those slow on the grasping chain, THIS IS A WAR, NOT SOME LEGAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUE

Damn that Bush......oh wait         

The true Arab fascists that Sirs so dearly loves to talk about, but knows nothing of, where mostly Arab Christians.

Spoken with sincere ignorance?  Ducks aren't ducks in your realm of debate?  Care to point out what "christians" I'm referring to as Islamicfascists, and how they're deemed Chrisitan in your version of events?

Actually, to the sane and normal, that constituted a snide little joke.  Pretty funny, too, IMHO.

Not really

However, I don't think conservatives like sirs are really interested in substantive debate because they lose those almost every one they enter.

Finally.....a little humor     

Senate to consider border fence bill
Posted 9/19/2006   

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate will consider a bill calling for erecting 700 miles of fencing on the U.S-Mexican border, a proposal that has been approved twice by the House.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., used a legislative maneuver to get the bill to the floor as early as Wednesday, when the Senate could decide whether to move forward on the legislation.

"Border security is the essential first step of any effort to enact immigration reform. Only when we have convinced the American people of our commitment to securing our borders will we be able reach a consensus on comprehensive immigration reform," Frist said in a statement.

Democrats are likely to try to block the bill. They may try to attach the comprehensive immigration bill the Senate passed in May as an amendment and push debate into next week. A delay could be a problem as Congress tries to wrestle with legislation addressing treatment of terrorism suspects.

"This smacks of desperation and a clear repudiation of President Bush's support for comprehensive immigration reform. It's obviously designed to play to the base. Sen. Frist was for comprehensive immigration reform before he was against it," said Jim Manley, spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

House Republicans, trying to keep the illegal immigration issue before voters, passed the fence bill last week by a vote of 283-138. The House had approved the same amount of fencing last December as part of a broader bill that would have made being in the country illegally a felony. That bill is stalled.

The nearly 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexican border now has about 75 miles of fencing.

The Senate's immigration bill calls for 370 miles of triple-layer fencing along the Mexican border. The Senate approved $1.8 billion in a defense spending bill for the construction. The House has not provided funding for the fence it approved.

The House and Senate passed far different immigration bills. Republican leaders in the House have resisted compromise. Heading into elections, they chose instead to take out parts of their bill and pass them separately to keep the focus on border security, which plays well with conservative voters.

The fence bill to be considered in the Senate is HR 6061.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-09-19-border-security_x.htm
 

I'm willing to give up:
FBI access to Jihad/terrorist/bombmaking book records
NSA monitoring of any calls to terrorists, who may be calling me