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3DHS / Re: Billions for war, not one cent for children's health insurance
« on: September 27, 2007, 04:37:51 PM »
"and you can have Universal Health Care funded at the state level via sales tax just like Canada's started out anytime you want it"

but, but, but, but, but the states don't have a printing press
so people would really have to pay for their healthcare
of course people have to pay any way you do it
but liberals like to hide costs and pretend stuffs "free"

come on now, lets turn over our healthcare to these two:




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3DHS / Re: Dinner with Ahmadinejad
« on: September 27, 2007, 02:31:42 PM »


Are you?







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3DHS / Re: Dinner with Ahmadinejad
« on: September 27, 2007, 12:57:41 PM »
"JS, I find your oft-expressed hostility to the historical plight of Jews"

JS  are you anti-semitic?

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3DHS / Re: Dinner with Ahmadinejad
« on: September 26, 2007, 11:18:07 PM »
the quavering gibberish from the edge of hysteria calling in

 Better lay in plenty of fresh water for your radiation shelter.  Don't forget the canned veggies.


i must admit that is funny michael
but i only wish it were true
i sincerely believe if we don't stop iran now
we could see armageddon in our lifetime



 
 

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3DHS / Joe Biden's Plan Is One Of Many Possible Solutions
« on: September 26, 2007, 07:15:54 PM »
Biden's Iraq plan sweeps Senate
by James Oliphant
Sept 26, 2007

Joe Biden has been betting it all on Iraq for some time now and today his horse came in. A Biden-sponsored amendment to a defense bill that calls for a significant policy change in Iraq passed the Senate today with a wide margin.

The amendment requires the United States to work to support the division of Iraq into three semi-autonomous regions, each governed locally by its dominant ethnic and religious factions, the Shiites, Sunnis, and Kurds. The regions would have dominion over police protection, jobs, utilities and other municipal functions, supported by a weaker federal government in Baghdad. All three regions would share in the country's oil revenues.

Biden (D-Del.) made a signature speech in support of the amendment last week on the Senate floor, but his proposal has been gaining bi-partisan steam since last year. Today it passed by a 75-23 margin, with Republicans such as John Warner (Va.), Kay Bailey Hutchison (Tex.), and Sam Brownback (Kan.) signing on. Biden?s rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination, Hillary Clinton (N.Y.) and Christopher Dodd (Conn.) also supported the measure. Barack Obama (Ill.) and Republican John McCain (Ariz.) didn?t vote.

The amendment has more value as a policy goal than a practical move. It doesn't carry the force of law and isn't binding on the Iraqi government in any way. But it does represent a different vision for the future of the country than the current one offered by the Bush administration.

Biden's challenge now is to translate his success on the Senate floor to gains in the polls in Iowa and elsewhere. He'll be returning to the campaign trail soon.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09/bidens_iraq_plan_sweeps_senate.html

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3DHS / Re: Dinner with Ahmadinejad
« on: September 26, 2007, 06:59:17 PM »
nobody is questioning their legitimacy

maybe because they are not about to cause WW3

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3DHS / Re: Dinner with Ahmadinejad
« on: September 26, 2007, 05:51:15 PM »


Most Iranian Presidential candidates were "disqualified" by the Guardian Council, which holds veto power over all political candidates in Iran.




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3DHS / Re: Dinner with Ahmadinejad
« on: September 26, 2007, 01:50:47 PM »



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3DHS / Re: Sarkozy says letting Iran go nuclear could cause war
« on: September 25, 2007, 11:31:01 PM »


it is wonderful the French have recently elected a leader that will not pander to terror supporting Muslims

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3DHS / Re: Iranian President AhmaIslamoNazijad
« on: September 25, 2007, 05:02:15 PM »
henny i can understand your point about "free speech" but in many ways i do find it troubling inviting a man to speak at an American University that is allowing or possibly even actively involved in supplying arms/training/bombs to people killing American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan on a daily basis

however it is in fact nice to see Ahmadinejad be subjected to a less scripted setting and be asked "real questions"

i was actually quite surprised, happy, and proud that the liberal president of Columbia Unviversity confronted Ahmadinejad in the manner he did

i would think even Ahmadinejad was a bit surprised to hear such a harsh commentary from an American academic

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3DHS / Re: Iranian President AhmaIslamoNazijad
« on: September 25, 2007, 12:41:23 PM »
true henny i can understand that
do they still execute homosexuals in iran or has that stopped?

henny how do you feel about President Ahmadinejad's visit to the United States, his invitation to speak at Columbia University, and about him in general?

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3DHS / Re: Iranian President AhmaIslamoNazijad
« on: September 25, 2007, 11:29:41 AM »
uh, i think we realize that
it was "tongue in cheek"
but it also shows how full of it AmaNazi is.
Like there really aren't homosexuals in iran
yeah right

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3DHS / Iranian President AhmaIslamoNazijad
« on: September 25, 2007, 10:41:53 AM »



"In Iran we don't have homosexuals like you do"

(Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Speech - Sept 24, 2007)






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US Acts to Curb Nuclear Proliferation

Israel's Syria Air Raid Used to Twist Nuclear Arms in Tehran, Damascus and Pyongyang

The Israeli air strike in northern Syria of Wednesday night Sept. 6 was not the big deal presented in most reports, hyped up as they were by the shroud of official secrecy drawn over the event by Jerusalem, Damascus and Washington.

Military and Middle East experts have told sources that the Israeli warplanes surgically targeted a small area, a facility disguised as an agriculture research center at Bir al-Harj on the Euphrates River near the Turkish border, which Israel believes is used for testing new weapons of mass destruction, nuclear, chemical and biological.


Syria's Vulnerability Immobilized by American-Israeli Cyber War Tactics

Three groups of air defense and early warning systems experts are hard at work in Damascus. Syrian president Bashar Assad has ordered them to find out why Syria's two early warning stations for protecting its skies against air and missile intrusion failed to detect or identify an Israeli air force raid on Sept. 6.

The Syrian group was handpicked by a very worried president. It is assisted by Russian experts, who are anxious to find out what caused the failure of the electronic systems and the radar of the Pantsyr S1-E air defense missile batteries purchased from Moscow.

A third group is made up of Iranian air force and missile corps officers who badly need to know what went wrong with the Russian early warning systems installed in both Iran and Syria.

Military sources report that the Syrian early warning station, positioned at Marj as Sulta, 15 km east of Damascus and north of the Syrian air base at the international airport, is there to secure the Syrian capital and monitor Israeli air or missile activity on the Golan and from northern Israel.

The Shinshar station south of Homs, near the small Syrian air base of Al Qusayr Shayrat, is located opposite northern Lebanon. Its function is to sound the alarm if airplanes, missiles or warships approach Syria from Lebanese territory of from the eastern Mediterranean.

When the early warning stations in Syria were silenced, some communications systems, computers and cell phones were also knocked out in neighboring Lebanon evidence that Syria had been bested in a cyber war against its electronic and radar systems.

Syrian war planners were blinded and left groping for answers to several questions:

1. From which did direction did the warplanes enter Syria airspace ? the Mediterranean, Israel or Turkey?

2. Were the trespassers Israeli or American air force jets or both? Damascus suspects they operated under an air umbrella provided by American aircraft flying in from Iraq or a US carrier in the Mediterranean.


The Turks refuse to cooperate with Damascus

3. The removal of markings from the ammunition and disposal fuel tanks dropped on both sides of the Syrian-Turkish border has left the Syrians uncertain about the identity of the planes which attacked them. All they could deduce was that meticulously planning must have gone into the attack for these telltale traces to have been removed.

4. Turkey sharply dismissed Syrian appeals for cooperation in getting some of these mysteries solved. On Sept. 13, Assad sent his foreign minister Walid Mualam to Ankara with this request. He found that the Americans and Israelis had got there first, posting high-ranking military delegations in the Turkish capital from the beginning of the week.

Sources were able to extract very little about this from a very high-placed Turkish military source, who would only say: We saw what they showed us and those images and explanations convinced us to continue to stay mum.?

Our intelligence sources assume that the Americans and Israelis showed Turkish officials the satellite images of the targeted Syrian facility, convincing them that it posed a danger to Turkey as well.

According to military sources, the three groups looking for answers in Damascus have made little if any progress in cracking the mystery, because two weeks after the initial attack, the United States-Israeli cyber war tactics against Syria are still going strong. Unknown forces, which none of those groups have been able to trace or identify, continue to jam Syria?s electronic networks, including air force computers, radar and early warning stations, with only very brief occasional letups.

The waves were powerful enough to disrupt Israeli satellite television broadcasts this week. Commercial firms complained and ran a notice to viewers that the cause of the trouble was being investigated with the assistance of defense specialists.

Western military experts comment that never before has a military cyber war been conducted at this level and for this length of time.

Our military sources account for its duration by two considerations:

One: To deter President Assad from any attempt at reprisal against Israeli or American targets in the Middle East. He is given to understand that hostile cyber activity against Syria can be intensified still further, blacking out all of Syria?s strategic and military facilities and endangering his regime.

Two: The electronic warfare systems employed against Syria proved to have a small loophole. While jamming the larger early warning and radar systems, a small Syrian electronic station managed to detect the Israeli air raid over northern Syria and alert the president and military command to the intrusion.

While Syrian, Russian and Iranian experts delve into the mysterious immobilization of Syria's main systems, the Americans and Israelis are curious to find out more about the small gap in their cyber offensive.

North Korean experts are known to visit the facility from time to time and assist in the experiments, although probably not on the night of the Israeli raid, while Iranian engineers are to be found everywhere in Syria?s military industry.

The number of Israeli air force planes which carried out the operation is not known, but they included F-15s, as attested to by the falling ammunition fragments picked up on the Syria and Turkish sides of the border.

According to Washington sources, the Israeli air force was harnessed for a US campaign larger than a single Syrian WMD facility: scare tactics to frighten Tehran and Damascus into backing away from their nuclear weapons ambitions and from black market purchases of elements of Pyongyang's dismantled program.

US officials now fear that the massive proliferation generated by Iran's steady progression towards a nuclear bomb and North Korea's renunciation of nuclear weapons has begun to run out of control in the Middle East and parts of Asia.

The first to jump into the nuclear race were Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and even Libya. Each wants to own a national nuclear program and an autonomous uranium enrichment capability. Nuclear fever has also infected Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.


Israel air force employed as scare tactic for Syria, Iran and North Korea

Yet the Americans refrained from intercepting, halting or searching the vessel before it docked on Sept. 3.

Our sources in Washington and Vienna have not learned from any American official why this was not done. But instead, the Israeli air force was deployed to attack the Bir al Harj facility three days after "the cement" was offloaded inTartus port.

Israeli intelligence had for years closely monitored the phony Syrian agricultural station on the Euphrates, keeping a wary eye on the development there of various weapons of mass destruction. Recently, they picked up unusually frequent visits by Iranian and North Korean scientists and engineers.

Israel clearly welcomed the opportunity to destroy a Syrian facility engaged in developing nuclear weapons. The advantage lay not only in aborting a potential threat, but also possibly ensuring that Syria would not think of resorting to nuclear arms against Israel for a very long time.

The attack served the United States as an unambiguous warning to Pyongyang to call off its roaring trade of bits and pieces of its nuclear program, as well as issuing a tangible caution to Syrian president Bashar Assad that he is now in Washington's military sights, direct or indirect.

This caution is addressed equally to Damascus and its strategic ally, Tehran.

A senior American source said that the episode which centered on the Israeli air attack is part of a comprehensive campaign which has only just begun.

This is no one-shot exercise against a Syrian target involving Iran and North Korea. The Bush administration has embarked on a course of unrelenting pressure on Pyongyang, Damascus and Tehran, targeting the Syrian regime as the first object for punishment.

Assad can look forward to more surprise operations like the one which caught him napping at Bir al Harj.

Syria and Iran's vulnerability to Israel air and missile attack was demonstrated in that operation when the Pantsyr-S1E air defense missile systems they purchased from Russia were jammed without downing the invading Israeli jets.

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3DHS / An interview with the "Lion of Arab Jabour".
« on: September 24, 2007, 03:45:32 PM »
An interview with the "Lion of Arab Jabour"
By Bill Roggio
September 22, 2007 10:18 AM

Battle Position Murray, Baghdad Province: While in the Arab Jabour region, The Long War Journal had the opportunity to interview General Mustaffa, the architect of the Concerned Citizens movement. Mustaffa has recruited 537 volunteers, and works closely with the 1st Battalion, 30th Regiment, 2nd Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division to secure the region. His Concerned Citizens turn over weapons caches, find and dismantle IEDs, man checkpoints, provide intelligence for US forces on al Qaeda in Iraq cells, and battle al Qaeda when attacked.

Mustaffa was a captain in Saddam Hussein's army. He served as an administrative officer in Baghdad, reported Lieutenant Colonel Ken Adgie, the commander of the 1/30. While Arab Jabour is predominantly Sunni, Mustaffa is married to a Shia and has given one of his four sons a Shia name.

Mustaffa has looked beyond the security piece in Arab Jabour and has reached out for assistance from the Iraqi National Team, a nongovernmental organization in Baghdad. The Iraqi National Team provides humanitarian aid in Arab Jabour, where the national and provincial governments have no presence.

Mustaffa and his officers and men are by and large trusted by the American soldiers serving in Arab Jabour. To conduct the meeting and interview with Mustaffa, Adgie, the interpreter, and I entered the school with Adgie?s personal security detachment, a fire team of four armed soldiers. The personal security detachment remained outside the office as Adgie, the interpreter, and I removed our body armor. Mustaffa and his men were armed with pistols.

Adgie refers to Mustaffa as the "Lion of Arab Jabour" and praises his efforts to build the Concern Citizens. Adgie and numerous officers and enlisted at Patrol Base Murray have seen the dramatic improvement in security in just three short months since engaging in Arab Jabour.

Mustaffa has begun to receive national attention in Iraq. Prior to the interview, Mustaffa conducted an interview with a television crew from the Al Rashid network.

LWJ: What motivated you to organize against al Qaeda in Iraq?

Mustaffa: They are criminals. There is no law, no order here. No system of government. We needed to organize against al Qaeda to protect ourselves.

LWJ: What has al Qaeda in Iraq done to the people of Arab Jabour?

Mustaffa: They killed our sons, ruined our infrastructure, displaced families, used sectarian violence against the people. They killed our electricians, our engineers, the technicians that run our water pumps and [water filtration] plant. They cooperated with foreign powers, with Syria and Iran, to kill us.

LWJ: Did al Qaeda in Iraq attempt to enforce Shariah?

Mustaffa: When al Qaeda announces its Islamic State, it forced people to obey their godless laws. The people of Arab Jabour would not submit to this. Al Qaeda are godless criminals.

LWJ: What support do your Concerned Citizens need from the central government to restore order to Arab Jabour?

Mustaffa: The central government hasn't dealt with us. There is no provincial government. Every time we try we have been rebuffed. All of the help and support has been from the Coalition. With support like ammunition, we can destroy al Qaeda. We believe al Qaeda is 70 percent finished here. The central government does not want to establish security here. They have an agenda with foreign powers.

LWJ: Do you believe that, given time, reconciliation is possible?

Mustaffa: We certainly hope so.

LWJ: How do you envision the Concerned Citizens integrating into the Iraqi Security Forces? Should they become part of the Army, the National Police, or local police?

Mustaffa: There are two projects that should be undertaken. Many of the Concerned Citizens don?t have the ability to be in the military. They should become part of the local police. Those who served in the Army prior [to the fall of Saddam Hussein?s rule] should be allowed back in the Army.

LWJ: Do you want an Iraqi Army presence in Arab Jabour?

Mustaffa: Yes, we hope so. We will create the stability so the Iraqi Army can come in and then they can establish themselves here.

LWJ: Do you have plans to expand the Concerned Citizens beyond where you have created this security zone?

Mustaffa: Yes, we hope so. But right now we do not have the ability to expand due to a lack of ammunition and al Qaeda?s strength in some areas.

LWJ: How has the Iraqi National Team helped the people of Arab Jabour.

Mustaffa: The Iraqi National Team assists the people of Arab Jabour by providing needed food and water. They rebuild homes, repair the water services and are helping with our schools. We are grateful for all of the help the Iraqi National Team has provided us in Arab Jabour.

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/09/an_interview_with_th.php

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