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10936
3DHS / Re: Iran fined $2.65 billion for terrorism
« on: September 08, 2007, 02:02:41 PM »
probably wont see this money until the regime change happens in the next few years
hoefully sooner than later
the mullahs have between 2-8 years left


10937
3DHS / Bad News For The Mullahs
« on: September 07, 2007, 06:48:25 PM »
(just got this e-mail)

Advanced Russian Air Defense Missile Cannot Protect Syrian and Iranian Skies

Exclusive Military Report

September 7, 2007   
 
Military experts conclude from the way Damascus described the episode Wednesday, Sept. 6, that the Pantsyr-S1E missiles, purchased from Russia to repel air assailants, failed to down the Israeli jets accused of penetrating northern Syrian airspace from the Mediterranean the night before.

The new Pantsyr missiles therefore leave Syrian and Iranian airspace vulnerable to hostile intrusion.

The Israeli plane or planes were described by a Syrian military spokesman as forced to leave by Syrian air defense fire after dropping ammunition over deserted areas without causing casualties. He warned the Israeli enemy against repeating its aggressive action and said his government reserved the right to respond in an appropriate manner.

Western intelligence circles stress that information on Russian missile consignments to Syria or Iran is vital to any US calculation of whether to attack Iran over its nuclear program. They assume that the absolute jamming immunity which the Russian manufactures promised for the improved Pantsyr missiles was immobilized by superior electronic capabilities exercised by the jets before they were forced to leave.

Syria took delivery in mid-August of 10 batteries of sophisticated Russian Pantsyr-S1E Air Defense Missile fire control systems with advanced radar, those sources report. They have just been installed in Syria.

Understanding that the Pantsyr-S1E had failed in its mission to bring down trespassing aircraft, Moscow hastened Thursday, Sept 6, to officially deny selling these systems to Syria or Iran and called on Israel to respect international law. This was diplomatic-speak for a warning against attacking the Russian-made missiles batteries stations where Russian instructors are working alongside Syrian teams.

Western intelligence circles maintain that it is vital for the US and Israel to establish the location and gauge the effectiveness of Pantsyr-S1E air defenses in Syrian and Iranian hands, as well as discovering how many each received.

They estimate that at least three or four batteries of the first batch of ten were shipped to Iran to boost its air defense arsenal; another 50 are thought to be on the way, of which Syria will keep 36.

The purported Israeli air force flights over the Pantsyr-S1E site established that the new Russian missiles, activated for the first time in the Middle East, are effective and dangerous but can be disarmed. Western military sources attribute to those Israeli or other air force planes superior electronics for jamming the Russian missile systems, but stress nonetheless that they were extremely lucky to get away unharmed, or at worst, with damage minor enough for a safe return to base.

The courage, daring and operational skills of the air crews must have been exceptional. They would have needed to spend enough time in hostile Syrian air space to execute several passes at varying altitudes under fire in order to test the Pantsyr-S1E responses. Their success demonstrated to Damascus and Tehran that their expensive new Russian anti-air system leaves them vulnerable.

Washington like Jerusalem withheld comment in the immediate aftermath of the episode. After its original disclosure, Damascus too is holding silent. Western intelligence sources believe the Syrians in consultation with the Russians and Tehran are weighing action to gain further media mileage from the incident. They may decide to exhibit some of the ammunition dropped by the Israeli aircraft as proof of Israel's contempt for international law. A military response may come next.

Pantsir-S1 or Panzir (Shell" in English) is a short-range, mobile air defense system, combining two 30mm anti-aircraft guns and 12 surface-to-air missiles which can fire on the move. It can simultaneously engage two separate targets at 12 targets per minute, ranging from fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters, ballistic and cruise missiles, precision-guided munitions and unmanned air vehicles. It can also engage light-armored ground targets.

The Pantsyr S1 short-range air defense system is designed to provide point defense of key military and industrial facilities and air defense support for military units during air and ground operations.

The integrated missile and gun armament creates an uninterrupted engagement zone of 18 to 20 km in range and of up to 10 km in altitude. Immunity to jamming is promised via a common multimode and multi-spectral radar and optical control system. The combined missile and artillery capability makes the Russian system the most advanced air defense system in the world. Syria and Iran believe it provides the best possible protection against American or Israeli air and missile attack. Stationed in al Hamma, at the meeting point of the Syrian-Jordanian and Israeli borders, the missile's detection range of 30 km takes in all of Israel's northern air force bases.



10938
3DHS / Hillary fugitive fundraiser Hsu captured in Colorado
« on: September 07, 2007, 06:25:44 PM »
Fugitive fundraiser Hsu captured in Colorado
September 7, 2007
by Jaxon Van Derbeken & John Cote

Fugitive political fundraiser Norman Hsu, who skipped out on San Mateo County authorities this week rather than face sentencing for a 1992 fraud conviction, was apprehended Thursday night by federal and local lawmen in Grand Junction, Colo.

Authorities said Hsu was taken into custody at St. Mary's Hospital in Grand Junction at 7 p.m. local time. He had been on the lam for almost two days after failing to appear in a Redwood City courtroom Wednesday to surrender his passport.

Hsu was taken off a passenger train at the Grand Junction train station earlier in the day by paramedics who requested a backboard to move him, said Sgt. Lonnie Chavez with the Grand Junction Police Department.

Authorities received a request for medical assistance at the train station at about 11:15 a.m., but the exact nature of Hsu's condition was unclear, Chavez said.

Hsu was traveling on an Amtrak train when he became ill, and Amtrak personnel called an ambulance when the train stopped in Grand Junction, said Pete Smarr, a nursing supervisor at St. Mary?s Hospital. Hsu was listed in fair condition early Friday, but Smarr declined to comment on the nature of Hsu's illness or a timetable for his release from the hospital.

Hsu was arrested in Colorado on federal charges of unlawful flight to avoid prosecution after the California attorney general's office sought assistance from federal authorities in apprehending him, FBI spokesman Joseph Schadler said. The federal charges will be dropped once Hsu is returned to California to face sentencing in state court, Schadler said.

Hsu's attorney told state prosecutors that Hsu had been on a charter flight that arrived at Oakland International Airport at about 5:30 a.m. Wednesday and then dropped out of sight, said Gareth Lacy, a spokesman for the state attorney general's office.

Amtrak's California Zephyr train offers service from nearby Emeryville to Grand Junction before heading to Denver and Chicago. The Zephyr left Emeryville at about 7:10 a.m. Wednesday and was scheduled to arrive in Grand Junction before noon Thursday.

Hsu's disappearing act seemed to be a reprise of a move he pulled 15 years ago, when he failed to show up for sentencing in the same grand theft case. Hsu was facing up to three years in state prison, a $10,000 fine and restitution payments after pleading no contest to a single count of grand theft in what prosecutors described as a $1 million fraud scheme.

But while free on bail after his plea, Hsu dropped from sight for 15 years, apparently spending time in Hong Kong, the Philippines and Taiwan, only to emerge in recent years as a seemingly wealthy New York resident who donated generously to Democratic political campaigns, regularly attended fundraisers and was photographed with party leaders.

A week ago, Hsu, 56, surrendered to San Mateo County sheriff's deputies in Redwood City after press accounts linked him to the earlier grand theft case. He spent a few hours in county jail before posting $2 million bail and agreeing to surrender his passport.

The state attorney general's office, which is prosecuting the case, initially sought bail of $1 million, but San Mateo Superior Court Judge James Ellis doubled that to $2 million - the amount specified in the arrest warrant.

After Hsu posted bail, his attorney, Jim Brosnahan, sent a legal assistant to Hsu's New York condominium Monday to retrieve the passport but was unable to find it after a 90-minute search.

Before Hsu was captured Thursday night, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell became the latest Democratic figure to distance himself from the fundraiser, announcing earlier in the day that he would donate to charity almost $40,000 Hsu contributed to his campaign.

"Though Norman is my friend, and remains so, his failure to appear casts a new light on his assertions regarding the original case," Rendell said in a prepared statement. "As a result, I will follow other elected officials and donate the money he contributed to me to charity."

Hsu, listed as a "Hillraiser" committed to bringing in $100,000 or more to the presidential campaign of New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, has given an estimated $600,000 of his own money to candidates ranging from San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom and Assemblywoman Fiona Ma to presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois. Hsu has helped raise hundreds of thousands more through high-profile events in New York and California and served on the board of trustees of New York City's New School university at the request of Bob Kerrey, the university's president and former Democratic senator from Nebraska.

The size and scope of Hsu's contributions made him one of the party's largest individual contributors. While he gave $23,000 to Clinton and $7,000 to Obama, he also gave $62,000 to New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, $50,000 to New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, and $50,000 to the New York State Democratic Party.

His contributions also included $38,000 to the Tennessee Democratic Party, $750 to Newsom, $1,250 to San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris, and $3,500 to the 25th Ward Democratic Organization in Chicago.

In the 1991-92 grand theft case, Hsu was charged with bilking about 20 investors, including his ex-girlfriend, out of about $1 million in connection with a business that was supposed to provide latex gloves to another firm - only no gloves were ever bought or sold, prosecutors said.

"What Mr. Hsu was in the business of was running a Ponzi scheme," prosecutor Ron Smetana said at a preliminary hearing, according to the transcript. "He was taking money and spending part of it on himself and returning it as it was available. As with any Ponzi scheme, the first ones in and the first ones out always do quite well. Those (who) hope that their investment will continue and stay to the end tend to lose their shorts."

After the glove business collapsed in April 1990, Hsu was kidnapped four months later in San Francisco by a Chinatown gang leader in an effort to collect a debt from him, police said. The abduction was foiled after the car they were riding in ran a red light in Foster City and was pulled over by police, who rescued Hsu, authorities said.

E-mail the writers at jvanderbeken@sfchronicle.com and jcote@sfchronicle.com.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/09/07/MN9OS10B5.DTL&tsp=1


10939
3DHS / Osama speaks like Michael Moore
« on: September 07, 2007, 06:07:51 PM »
Osama Bin Laden:

"You permitted Bush to complete his first term, and stranger still, chose him for a second term, which gave him a clear mandate from you -- with your full knowledge and consent -- to continue to murder our people in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Then you claim to be innocent!  The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th -- were I to claim such a thing."

ever notice many on the Left basically utter the same anti-Bush, it's all our fault, blame america message?




10940
3DHS / Re: gaza flare up
« on: September 07, 2007, 05:40:11 PM »
"People do not become murderous suicidal tools for no reason at all. 9-11 was entirely predictible"

Yeah when you baiscally think everybody outside your religion is an infidel and should be killed you'll do anything to support that lunacy.

defend Hezbolla
defend suicide bombers
thats why they'll lose in '08
the american people don't and won't buy the non-sense of the anti-american left
keep talking about the great works of hezbolla, maybe at the dem convention?
That would be real swell


10941
3DHS / Re: gaza flare up
« on: September 07, 2007, 05:34:39 PM »
"It should be noted also that Hezbollah does quite a bit of social work in Southern Lebanon to help the Shi'a Muslim population there (as well as others) who have historically been one of the most rejected and deprived groups in that region"

are you as quick to bring up how much social work and enormous humanitarian work the US is and has done in Iraq?
Or do you just sing the praises of terror groups like Hezbollah that call for the destruction of America and Irsael?
i think hitler built great museums

10942
3DHS / Re: gaza flare up
« on: September 07, 2007, 11:03:12 AM »
Syria is not specifically addressed in that resolution and therefore I don't think it lawfully applies to them.

Thats like saying because someone is not specifically listed in muder laws that the law does not apply to them.

?(a)The sale or supply to any entity or individual in Lebanon of arms and related materiel of all types, including weapons and ammunition, military vehicles and equipment, paramilitary equipment, and spare parts for the aforementioned, whether or not originating in their territories;


And even if it did, with Israel's history of disregarding UN resolutions,

as have Hezbollah


10943
3DHS / Re: gaza flare up
« on: September 07, 2007, 09:38:43 AM »
You know, if Israel crossed into Syrian airspace, despite their intentions, they still violated international law and Syria is within their right to defend themselves.

yes and you know if syria is allowing huge shipments of arms to knowingly flow through syria to Hezbollah that is a violation of UN Resolution 1701 and Israel has a right to defend itself especially after being under almost dailing attack from these every same arms being brought through Syria.

10944
3DHS / Re: Judge stikes down key part of Patriot Act
« on: September 07, 2007, 08:09:35 AM »

Big surprise:
U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero nominated by William J. Clinton on May 27, 1999



10945
3DHS / Re: gaza flare up
« on: September 06, 2007, 09:38:05 PM »
Funny, that viewpoint (the one Henny is presenting) is the only one that is presented in the US media as well

exactly

10946
3DHS / Re: gaza flare up
« on: September 06, 2007, 05:12:27 PM »
"LOL - Because Israel respects UN resolutions!"

you completely miss the point
the point isn't un resolotions
the point is henny mentions one side of reality
which implies israel is the "bad guy"
if israel crossed into syrian airspace it may because huge amounts of arms are being brought to people via syria that want israel destroyed




10947
3DHS / Re: gaza flare up
« on: September 06, 2007, 11:25:06 AM »
The Israeli Army has not officially confirmed that yet. Then again, if they confirm that, then they have to confirm that they were illegally flying in Syrian airspace

that "airspace violation" could not be in any way related to Syrian continued allowance of huge arms smugggling from Syria to Hezbollah in violation of a UN Resolution?

10948
3DHS / Re: gaza flare up
« on: September 06, 2007, 10:39:28 AM »
"can't think of many spots "hotter" than Gaza is already"

syria fired on israeli aircraft yesterday
however you are correct
something very big is about to happen in gaza

10949
3DHS / gaza flare up
« on: September 06, 2007, 10:03:42 AM »
memo:
i think they have had enough
war will soon break out involving israel
gaza will be hot spot and possibly other areas

10950
3DHS / Re: CAIR-TV
« on: September 06, 2007, 09:44:35 AM »
"an Arabic language public school in New York"

what?
yes that will certainly help promote assimilation

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