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3DHS / Re: Cain on Foreign Policy
« on: November 06, 2011, 03:59:02 PM »
As a meeting, on the heels of 9/11, was about to begin at Camp David, Tony Blair noticed that Bush was flanked by two African Americans, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice. Blair thought, could this happen in the UK? No, he answered himself, we aren't this far along.

Neither is any other western European nation. And only the United States, among the western powers, has elected an African-you-pick-it as their leader.

Find another horse to ride, Blowhard.

BSB (A Republican who voted for an African American to lead this country)

Canada too.

3DHS / Re: occupy is easy to ignore,but this can get scarey for the banks.
« on: November 05, 2011, 10:50:54 PM »

the next step is for people to apply for loans elsewhere. remember banks are presently making loans hard to get so this will be an easy shift.

not really going to amount to anything

3DHS / Re: The Cain Gingrich Discussion
« on: November 05, 2011, 10:46:04 PM »
This was a very refreshing discussion. I could see Newt now take the second spot in polling and Romney drop to third. A Cain/Newt ticket sits very well with me. And so does a Romney/Christie ticket. I guess it depends how much change people are looking for.

Cain/Newt or Newt/Cain


Any Repub over Obama

3DHS / Re: The Cain Gingrich Discussion
« on: November 05, 2011, 10:07:25 PM »
That's exactly what this type of event is. A discussion...

3DHS / I wonder how many of these people will vote for O in 12
« on: November 05, 2011, 08:20:37 PM »

WASHINGTON (AP) — The jobs crisis has left so many people out of work for so long that most of America's unemployed are no longer receiving unemployment benefits.

Early last year, 75 percent were receiving checks. The figure is now 48 percent — a shift that points to a growing crisis of long-term unemployment. Nearly one-third of America's 14 million unemployed have had no job for a year or more.

Congress is expected to decide by year's end whether to continue providing emergency unemployment benefits for up to 99 weeks in the hardest-hit states. If the emergency benefits expire, the proportion of the unemployed receiving aid would fall further.

The ranks of the poor would also rise. The Census Bureau says unemployment benefits kept 3.2 million people from slipping into poverty last year. It defines poverty as annual income below $22,314 for a family of four.

Yet for a growing share of the unemployed, a vote in Congress to extend the benefits to 99 weeks is irrelevant. They've had no job for more than 99 weeks. They're no longer eligible for benefits.

Their options include food stamps or other social programs. Nearly 46 million people received food stamps in August, a record total. That figure could grow as more people lose unemployment benefits.

So could the government's disability rolls. Applications for the disability insurance program have jumped about 50 percent since 2007.

"There's going to be increased hardship," said Wayne Vroman, an economist at the Urban Institute.

The number of unemployed has been roughly stable this year. Yet the number receiving benefits has plunged 30 percent.

Government unemployment benefits weren't designed to sustain people for long stretches without work. They usually don't have to. In the recoveries from the previous three recessions, the longest average duration of unemployment was 21 weeks, in July 1983.

By contrast, in the wake of the Great Recession, the figure reached 41 weeks in September. That's the longest on records dating to 1948. The figure is now 39 weeks.

"It was a good safety net for a shorter recession," said Carl Van Horn, an economist at Rutgers University. It assumes "the economy will experience short interruptions and then go back to normal."

Weekly unemployment checks average about $300 nationwide. If the extended benefits aren't renewed, growth could slow by up to a half-percentage point next year, economists say.

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that each $1 spent on unemployment benefits generates up to $1.90 in economic growth. The CBO has found that the program is the most effective government policy for increasing growth among 11 options it's analyzed.

Jon Polis lives in East Greenwich, R.I., one of the 20 states where 99 weeks of benefits are available. He used them all up after losing his job as a warehouse worker in 2008. His benefits paid for groceries, car maintenance and health insurance.

Now, Polis, 55, receives disability insurance payments, food stamps and lives in government-subsidized housing. He's been unable to find work because employers in his field want computer skills he doesn't have.

"Employers are crying that they can't find qualified help," he said. But the ones he interviewed with "weren't willing to train anybody."

From late 2007, when the recession began, to early 2010, the number of people receiving unemployment benefits rose more than four-fold, to 11.5 million.

But the economy has remained so weak that an analysis of long-term unemployment data suggests that about 2 million people have used up 99 weeks of checks and still can't find work.

Contributing to the smaller share of the unemployed who are receiving benefits: Some of them are college graduates or others seeking jobs for the first time. They aren't eligible. Only those who have lost a job through no fault of their own qualify.

The proportion of the unemployed receiving benefits usually falls below 50 percent during an economic recovery. Many have either quit jobs or are new to the job market and don't qualify.

Today, the proportion is falling for a very different reason: Jobs remain scarce. So more of the unemployed are exhausting their benefits.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has noted that the long-term unemployed increasingly find it hard to find work as their skills and professional networks erode. In a speech last month, Bernanke called long-term unemployment a "national crisis" that should be a top priority for Congress.

Lawmakers will have to decide whether to continue the extended benefits by the end of this year. If the program ends, nearly 2.2 million people will be cut off by February.

Congress has extended the program nine times. But it might balk at the $45 billion cost. It will be the first time the Republican-led House will vote on the issue.

3DHS / Re: This is when Newt will climb to 20%
« on: November 05, 2011, 02:36:57 PM »
Newt will never be elected to anything ever again.

20% will not get him any nomination.

I never said Newt would cap at 20%. I never said he would win the nomination. Although I think this style of debate is something Newt excels at and he certainly could win the nomination. Especially when you compare both Obama and McCain at this same time in the last election. Clearly both Obama and McCain did not lead the pack the entire primary election. Clearly to anybody with a brain Romney hasn't closed the sale. Clearly you are a punk with a fat belly that sits back and throws stones at people because you are a miserable person that hates life and feels like you were cheated out of something that you deserved.

3DHS / Re: Beautiful
« on: November 05, 2011, 02:29:57 PM »
You on the other hand, are a walking insult to the human race.

Assuming that you actually are capable of bipedal locomotion, of course.

I note that you didn't refute my contention that all those African Americans are better than you in every facet of their lives.

3DHS / Re: This is when Newt will climb to 20%
« on: November 05, 2011, 02:19:00 PM »
Newt is a smartass. Also a philanderer.
Nearly everyone thinks he is a smartass. Everyone knows about the philandering. His own party threw him out of the Speakership and the House for it.

No way he'll get even 20%. But so what if he does? 20% won't beat Romney.

Newt is just one more person that is better than you in everything in life. You are a zero compared to Newt and his accomplishments. Why would anyone pay any attention to your predictions?

3DHS / Re: Beautiful
« on: November 05, 2011, 02:15:24 PM »
There was nothing high tech about the non-lynching of Clarence "Uncle" Thomas.
The man is an insult to the court and this country.

What really stands out to me is that all these African Americans that you insult with racial slurs are better than you. They are better educated, better off financially, hold & held better job positions, are more successful in life, more intelligent and more logical than you.

XO, you compared to any one of them are a dismal failure. You are pathetically unqualified compared to any one of these people.

And of course I am referring to Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice. These are people that you have racially insulted on several occasions.

3DHS / This is when Newt will climb to 20%
« on: November 05, 2011, 12:43:25 PM »
Headed for the Gingrich-Cain debate in Houston

3:06 pm November 4, 2011, by jgalloway

Houston – You could call it a debate in the style of America’s most famous series of oratorical confrontations — but only if Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas had addressed each other from comfy, high-backed armchairs.

And spectators had been willing to shell out at least $200.

Georgia’s two Republican candidates for president, friends who have watched each other’s back during much of the early campaign, will go toe to toe at 8 p.m. (Eastern) Saturday evening in a two-man debate in the backyard of a third contender, Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Last spring, when a Texas tea party group conceived of it , the 90-minute session might have been considered a mere experiment — an antidote to GOP debates that featured an army of candidates reduced to 30-second sound bites.

But in a Republican primary that has made volatility a byword, the Saturday night debate could mark the beginning of a less-than-friendly, tea party-driven fight for the right to challenge former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney for the Republican nomination.

A Washington Post/ABC News poll released Friday showed Cain in a virtual tie for the lead with Romney among GOP voters. Gingrich, whose campaign cratered after a May debut, is essentially tied with Perry right behind the two front-runners.

Perhaps more important, other polls show that — should his campaign falter under the weight of the current charges of sexual harassment — Cain supporters prefer Gingrich as a second choice.

C-SPAN has decided to broadcast the debate live, as has AM750 and 95.5FM News/Talk WSB, where Cain once had an evening talk show — and Gingrich often chats with morning host Neal Boortz. The debate will also be streamed live over the Internet at

Cain was invited to the debate months ago, on the strength of an April appearance before the Texas Tea Party Patriots, said Julie Turner, president of the group. Gingrich was invited after complaining in an interview about the confining nature of debates hosted by outlets such as Fox News and CNN.

“The debates were so intensely frustrating because you’d have seven, eight, nine candidates up there on the stage, and they have a minute or 30 seconds to respond to the most important issues facing us,” Turner said. So as not to offend their governor, the group has offered to have a second debate featuring Perry and whoever he would like to square off with.

The tea party group chose to go with a modified version of the famed Lincoln-Douglas debates of 1858, which were actually a collection of long speeches concerning slavery.

The long-form format of the Cain-Gingrich debate will consist of only three or four basic questions, a moderator who will try to stay out of the picture and a great deal of crossdiscussion.

The debate will focus on federal entitlement spending — on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Gingrich will be specifically required to defend his criticism — later retracted — of U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan’s plan to reduce a $14 trillion deficit.

Cain will be required to explain the intricacies of his “9-9-9” plan — a measure that includes a 9 percent corporate tax rate, a 9 percent personal income tax rate and a 9 percent national sales tax.

Gingrich and Cain go back more than 15 years, when the then-U.S. House speaker appointed Cain, then head of the National Restaurant Association, to a commission on economic growth and taxes.

On Wednesday, calling in to AM750 and 95.5FM News/Talk WSB, Gingrich defended Cain as his rival struggled with charges that he had sexually harassed two female employees during his years at the restaurant trade group.

“It is disgusting that the news media, probably led by some leak by some political operative, starts up a witch hunt on a topic where they had no name, no information — there’s no public record — and then they create the whole story,” Gingrich said.

Similarly, in an interview on an Iowa radio station this week, Cain said that he’d certainly consider Gingrich as a running mate — despite the former pizza executive’s distaste for anything that smacks of Washington. “Newt Gingrich is looking well because since he left Congress he’s had a chance to recover,” Cain said.

Expect some polite but strong disagreement Saturday night.

“I imagine they’ll get into the idea of how impractical a sales tax is. I imagine Newt will evaluate [Cain’s “9-9-9” plan] on its merits,” Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond said. “These guys have a very cordial relationship. They didn’t just meet. They’ve known each other for more than a decade.”

3DHS / Re: Cain on Foreign Policy
« on: November 04, 2011, 09:52:31 PM »
Now one of two things happened concerning Cains claim that China was trying to get nuclear weapons. A) Eiether he did miss-speak, or B) he latter was told that China, of course, already had nuclear weapons, so he claimed to have miss-spoken.

I vote for the latter.


Too bad but people aren't interested in discussing this any further as much as you would like to control what is said and not, but you don't own this thread.

3DHS / Re: Beautiful
« on: November 04, 2011, 09:33:32 PM »
These dummy's have no idea how messed up they are. They also have no idea how much they energized Cain's campaign.

We all know that Republicans electing Cain as the first black president removes the Democrat Party as the owners of all black people in America and allows them to be free thinkers once and for all. 

3DHS / Re: Cain on Foreign Policy
« on: November 04, 2011, 09:29:26 PM »
It's amazing seeing the true color coming out in these so-called diverse liberals with regards to Mr Cain.

3DHS / Re: News from Occupy Westside
« on: November 04, 2011, 08:16:56 PM »
Actually been playing Southern Rock - The South Gonna Do It Again, Freebird, Long Haired Redneck...I can play ya Dixie on the harmonica.

Been drinking Guinness, thought, 'cause PBR and Bud taste like stud horse piss with the foam farted off.

I gave up domestic beer probably 25 years ago. I'd rather not drink any beer than a domestic. That would include crap like Samuel Adams. English made Samuel Smith Organic Lager has a great taste.

3DHS / Re: Cain on Foreign Policy
« on: November 04, 2011, 07:08:12 PM »
Ouch....damn them pesky facts

Aren't these people the same ones that were OK with Clinton committing perjury? But now they are bothered by non story about Cain. The next thing to come out will be allegations that one of Cain's pubic hairs were on the top of a can of coke. Maybe one of the 3 bitches are named Anita.

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