It's the right time for Obama

[Brassmask]

I don't think Hillary is insane. Nor Guilliani. Shame Warner pulled out. Bayh is worth looking at. .
I think Gore has as much of a chance as Lamont did. Not too fond of McCain either.

I still adhere to the belief that it is WAY early to be laying bets on who will win.  Personally, I want Gore to run and I hope that he will win but I'm not 100% committed to him and only him.  Of the people announcing and intimating and so forth, only Obama has any appeal to me but he won't inspire me to get out there and talk to people on his behalf.  Hell, if it was him and anybody else right now, I wouldn't even bother getting a yard sign.

[yellow_crane]

 Not too fond of McCain either.
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Sees McCain hired one of the Bush outfit's biggest sleazes to manage his campaign--Terry Nelson, who was responsible for the blatant racist ad that cost Ford the election in Tennessee, as well as being an indicted (or unindicted, depending) co-conspirator in Tom DeLay and RNC in the TRMPAC scandal, as well as the illegal phone jamming in New Hampshire.

You would think McCain would think twice, in today's lowtide corruption scandals,  about hiring somebody of such notoriety, but maybe he just knows that the press rarely goes after the dirty dealers in campaigns.  I don't, for instance, remember reading in the MSM that Kerry's swiftboat ads were financed, at least by $2.3 million big ones, by Alice Walton, daughter of Sam Walton.

Seems to suggest that Bush and McCain are not really too far apart.



"We must win in Iraq.  We cannot fail.  If we lose in Iraq, they're coming after us.  We will fight them somewhere else, like here.  It's all part of a gigantic, titanic struggle between good and evil." -- Sen. John McCain.

[Brassmask]

McCain used to be the guy I would vote for if Hillary and he were the candidates but that's not going to be happening now.  He's crossed over to the dark side.

I would like to ask though, why was that "blatantly racist" ad "blatantly racist"?  I thought it was just stupid.

Also, I think that Gore is running.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061211/ap_on_el_pr/gore2008

[Xavier_Onassis]

I would like to ask though, why was that "blatantly racist" ad "blatantly racist"?  I thought it was just stupid.

The ad with the blonde who asks Harold th call me was indeed dumb, but it was more than a bit racist in its intent.
Voting for Harold is a way of approving of a tryst between a blonde bimbo and Harold seems to be the message.

[yellow_crane]

Well, Nelson and crew picked the blondest bimbo they could find to coo suggestively to Harold, just at the end.  I would argue that in the South that is a trigger; the woman's action were sexual towards Ford, and that's the oldest song in the South.  I would wager that a huge percentage of lynchings were evolved from a latent sexual undertheme.

I think it was obviously racist, but you may have a point about blatant.

Blatant would be obviously, boldly conspicuous, and it was subtle enough to get aired.

But can you deny that the ad was meant to trigger a latent racism in the state's society?
If that was not the intent of the ad, they must be doing cartwheels at the coincidental success of it.

[R.R.]

I thought I liked Obama until Ricky Ricardo said nice things about him . I now must rethink my position .

There really aren't any strong conservatives in the race that I like. I don't particularly care for Mitt Romney. And Newt is just going to be shaping the debate; even he doesn't think he can probably win.

My top 3 choices for president would be Guiliani, McCain, and Obama, of the proposed field.

[yellow_crane]

Also, I think that Gore is running.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061211/ap_on_el_pr/gore2008
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I find it hard to forgive Gore for not fighting the war in Florida, but I will admit that he has redeemed himself beyond what I thought he could.  I have heard a few comments on the blabs about Gore making great strides in proving himself as credible to people who have been heretofore ready to laugh at him.

If he vocalizes on the environment to the extent that he reveals what he knows--that the majority of Americans believe in a sane approach to the environment, while much smaller numerically corporations and share holders argue that if they cannot poison (in many cases, to death) the land, they can't make their biggest buck.  

If Gore links the corporations to the environment in real terms, I would vote (and pimp) for him.

[domer]

The confounding issue when considering the environment vs. the economy is the number of "regular guy" jobs that may depend on more lax standards. Ideally, any loss from regulation could conceivably be made up in jobs creating new environmental technology, but, to some extent at least, that's speculative and it carries a transition period that would adversely affect those who simply cannot defer to a brighter time.

[BT]

The confounding issue when considering the environment vs. the economy is the number of "regular guy" jobs that may depend on more lax standards. Ideally, any loss from regulation could conceivably be made up in jobs creating new environmental technology, but, to some extent at least, that's speculative and it carries a transition period that would adversely affect those who simply cannot defer to a brighter time.

That is a major consideration. Another determining factor is how the "crisis" is sold.

In local politics, the politician who wants to ban Weber grills, is the politician seeking early retirement.

Same goes for pickup trucks.