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« on: April 11, 2011, 04:51:11 PM »
Students who attend Chicago's Little Village Academy public school get nothing but nutritional tough love during their lunch period each day. The students can either eat the cafeteria food--or go hungry. Only students with allergies are allowed to bring a homemade lunch to school, the Chicago Tribune reports.

"Nutrition wise, it is better for the children to eat at the school," principal Elsa Carmona? told the paper. "It's about ... the excellent quality food that they are able to serve (in the lunchroom). It's milk versus a Coke."

But students said they would rather bring their own lunch to school in the time-honored tradition of the brown paper bag. "They're afraid that we'll all bring in greasy food instead of healthy food and it won't be as good as what they give us at school," student Yesenia Gutierrez told the paper. "It's really lame."

The story has attracted hundreds of comments so far. One commenter, who says her children attend a different Chicago public school, writes, "I can accept if they want to ban soda, but to tell me I can't send a lunch with my child. ARE YOU KIDDING ME????"

For parents whose kids do not qualify for free or reduced price school lunches, the $2.25 daily cafeteria price can also tally more than a homemade lunch. "We don't spend anywhere close to that on my son's daily intake of a sandwich (lovingly cut into the shape of a Star Wars ship), Goldfish crackers and milk," Northwestern education policy professor Diane Whitmore Schanzenbach told the paper in an email. She told The Lookout parents at her child's public school would be upset if they tried to ban homemade lunches.

"I think that lots of parents at least at my child's school do think that what they pack is more nutritious [than school lunches]," she said.  A Chicago public school teacher started a blog to protest the low quality of the city's school lunches, and last year the schools tightened their nutrition standards for cafeteria-served school lunches. Every lunch must contain whole grains, only reduced-fat salad dressings and mayonnaise are offered as condiments, and the meals must feature a different vegetable each day. Meal providers also must reduce sodium content by 5 percent annually. About 86 percent of the district's students qualify for free or reduced price school lunches because their families live close to the poverty line.

Change in Chicago's school cafeterias feeds into a larger effort to combat the country's childhood obesity epidemic. About a third of America's kids are overweight or obese, and since children consume at least 30 percent of their calories while in school, making lunches healthier is seen as one way to counter that problem. Poorer kids are also more likely to be obese or overweight than middle class kids, and to consume a bigger proportion of their calories while at school. Forty-four percent of American kids living below the poverty line are obese or overweight, according to a 2010 study published in Health Affairs.

While we haven't been able to track down another school that bans homemade lunches outright, many smaller food battles have been playing out in cafeterias across the country. As principals try to counter obesity in their schools, healthy intentions can come across as overreach, occasionally sparking parent and student anger.

Alabama parents protested a school's rule that barred students from bringing any drinks from home, as ice water was provided at lunch. East Syracuse, New York schools have outlawed cupcakes and other desserts. And schools around the country have kicked out chocolate milk and soda vending machines. Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin even showed up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, with dozens of cookies to express her disdain for a debate in the state about recommending teachers limit the number of times per month the sugary treats are eaten in classroom birthday celebrations.

Tucson, Arizona's Children's Success Academy allows home-packed lunches--but only if nothing in them contains white flour, refined sugar, or other "processed" foods, the Arizona Republic reported in a story last year. The school has no cafeteria, so some parents told the paper they struggled to find foods to pack that meet the restrictions. Many schools ban fast food or other take-out meals.

Soon, cafeteria offerings across the country will all be healthier, whether students like it or not. Last year's Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act, championed by First Lady Michelle Obama, calls for higher nutritional standards to serve the 32 million kids who eat lunch every day at school (most of whom qualify for free or reduced price lunches through a federal government program). For the first time, the USDA will set calorie limits for school lunches, and will recommend they contain more vegetables and whole grains, and less salt, USA Today reports. French fries should be replaced by vegetables and fruit, the guidelines say.

The bill also calls for stricter food safety checks on cafeteria food.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110411/us_yblog_thelookout/chicago-school-bans-homemade-lunches-the-latest-in-national-food-fight/print

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Re: Rediculous
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 05:08:54 PM »
This stems from liberalism. Libs want to control people, they are smarter than everybody else (so they believe) therefore they make a rules for YOU have to follow it. The problem is rules don't apply to the liberals that make the rules. The rules apply to dumb, uneducated, stupid people that are not capable of making good personal decisions (mindset of liberals with regards to pee-ons). As society becomes dumber and dumber, under liberalism, more rules and regs will come down the road. The nanny state will flourish and the dummy's out there will follow in lockstep happily picking up the morsels of crumbs the elitists drop on the ground. If anybody speaks out they will immediately be labeled a racist Obama hater and will be sent away and considered lucky if they return intact and if they don't return then we all silently know they were turned into Soylent Green.

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 05:20:50 PM »
when Dr. Michael Savage said "liberalism is a mental disorder"
i intially dismissed it as a "ha ha" ....kind of a put down joke.
to be honest I actually am starting to believe it now
liberalism - the need to control everyone's lives is a mental disorder

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 05:38:21 PM »
I am 100% convinced that liberals make up a group of people in society that are highly mentally ill. They are control freaks, believing everyone is dumb and they are smarter than the rest. A true liberal will die knowing that you are wrong and they are right. They never ever yield or bend, they are Godless, having no morality, and will do anything, including murder to achieve their goals. They are sociopaths, lacking conscience, and love nothing except themselves. They are used by the devil and indeed he is their friend and confident. To them people are objects not people and liberals have zero regard for human life whatsoever. They will kill you (in a heart beat) in order to save a knatcatcher bird though.

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Re: Rediculous
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 05:46:33 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 06:28:32 PM »
Besides control freakism this Liberal Scam is about money too!

School Bans Lunches Brought From Home
for Health & Profit Mostly Profit


By Doug Powers  -  April 11, 2011

The food profiteers & self-appointed nutrition cops stampede onward.
From the Chicago Tribune:

Fernando Dominguez cut the figure of a young revolutionary leader during a recent lunch period at his elementary school.

"Who thinks the lunch is not good enough?", the seventh-grader shouted to his lunch mates in Spanish and English.

Dozens of hands flew in the air and fellow students shouted along:"We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch!"

Fernando waved his hand over the crowd and asked a visiting reporter: "Do you see the situation"?

At his public school, Little Village Academy on Chicago's West Side, students are not allowed to pack lunches from home. Unless they have a medical excuse, they must eat the food served in the cafeteria.

Principal Elsa Carmona said her intention is to protect students from their own unhealthful food choices. Do you think this has anything to do with the "no lunch from home policy"?

Any school that bans homemade lunches also puts more money in the pockets of the district's food provider, Chartwells-Thompson. The federal government pays the district for each free or reduced-price lunch taken, and the caterer receives a set fee from the district per lunch.I'm sure it's all about health though. The fact that unions are the ones who profit the most from government health initiatives is purely coincidental.

Here's a little side challenge: Look at the photo that accompanies the story and try to figure out exactly what in the world is on those food trays. I'm afraid to guess. If they're trying to get kids to lose weight, that should do it.

Finally, here's the nanny-state's dream citizen:

But parent Miguel Medina said he thinks the "no home lunch policy" is a good one. "The school food is very healthy," he said, "and when they bring the food from home, there is no control over the food." Um, here's a wacky suggestion: You, the parent, could control your kid's lunch. Just a thought. I'll just down off my "rugged individualism" soapbox now.

All things being equal, when it comes to setting kids up for a lifetime of subjugation to the nanny state or having too much sugar in his or her lunch from home, I say "give me Gummi Bears or give me death."

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Re: Rediculous
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 07:45:06 PM »
Chicago School Makes Kids Eat Government Food, Forbids Homemade Lunches

A Chicago school is forbidding children to bring homemade lunches to school "to protect students from their own unhealthful food choices," according to an article in the Chicago Tribune.

The school makes an exception for medical issues, but, otherwise, the kids are forced to eat whatever's being served in the cafeteria.

Because, you know, a food assembly line is really going to care more about what is put into a child's body than most parents. Yeah, right.

"At Little Village, most students must take the meals served in the cafeteria or go hungry or both. During a recent visit to the school, dozens of students took the lunch but threw most of it in the garbage uneaten. Though CPS has improved the nutritional quality of its meals this year, it also has seen a drop-off in meal participation among students, many of whom say the food tastes bad."

Apparently, other schools in the area have similar policies or rules that a child can bring his or her lunch but take away snacks with a lot of sugar or salt. Sadly, some parents are on board with the idea. Others are frustrated.

The article shows that many times, the policy increases the money received by the district's food provider, but costs the parents more:

"Any school that bans homemade lunches also puts more money in the pockets of the district's food provider, Chartwells-Thompson. The federal government pays the district for each free or reduced-price lunch taken, and the caterer receives a set fee from the district per lunch.
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"For many CPS parents, the idea of forbidding home-packed lunches would be unthinkable. If their children do not qualify for free or reduced-price meals, such a policy would require them to pay $2.25 a day for food they don't necessarily like."


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Re: Rediculous
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 07:55:34 PM »
hmm

doesn`t this mean the school is now legally responsible if the kid gets malnutrition, remember the school policy encourages meal skipping for minors.
this could easily teach kids to not eat all meals

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 01:36:16 AM »
I think it is valid for the school to serve healthy food and not to have candy and soda machines. I don't think that it is valid for a school to ban students from bringing food prepared by their parents. It would be acceptable for the school to recommend good balanced food for students to bring from home,but not for them to ban anything except the obvious (beer, booze and marijuana brownies). The name of this school sounds like it might be a charter school.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2011, 01:59:45 AM »
don`t forget if the student doesn`t pay he or she is not allowed to eat at all.

The students can either eat the cafeteria food--or go hungry

not sure water is allowed

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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2011, 10:38:02 AM »
Water is surely allowed. I have yet to see a school without drinking fountains.

I suppose that they could ban students from bringing bottled water from home on the theory that is could be vodka, but I doubt it.
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