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Bin Laden had at least 5 Villa Hideouts in Pakistan
« on: May 11, 2011, 05:33:28 PM »
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Osama bin Laden's Five or More Villa Hideouts in Pakistan

Up until May 2, 2011, Pakistan sheltered Osama bin Laden in protected and comfortable accommodation. Indeed, between 2004 and 2005, at least five fortified villa complexes like the one raided by US Special Forces in Abbottabad May 2 were provided for the al Qaeda leader's
use as hideouts in different parts of Pakistan.

They were all located in upscale areas or near military facilities, one of them actually inside an army residential neighborhood near Karachi populated by officers of the rank of lieutenant colonel and higher. And, according to DEBKA-Net-Weekly's intelligence sources, when unoccupied by bin Laden, the walled homes often served Pakistani intelligence as safe houses or even holiday villas for high officers.

When Foreign Secretary Salman Bashar disclosed Wednesday, May 4 that information about the Abbottabad villa had been relayed to Washington two years ago, he added that there were "millions of other suspect locations" in other parts of Pakistan.

Some intelligence officials in the West wondered out loud this week how, in a country where the average man is no more than 1.60 meters in height, a two-meter tall Arab managed to escape notice when he stepped out on the roof of his house or a balcony for a breath of fresh air.
(The balconies, incidentally, were angled so as to obstruct snipers' aim from outside the compound.)

On those grounds alone, Pakistani intelligence, the ISI, or even his army neighbors would have known who was living there some of the time.

Another point that sticks out about those residences, assuming that Abbottabad was the template for his other secret bolt holes in Pakistan, is that they had no open or covered parking space. The most wanted terrorist in the world hunted by every Western secret service did not keep a getaway car ready to go. Neither were any helicopters set aside for his use at nearby Pakistan army facilities, some located less than half a kilometer from one of his makeshift residences.

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Re: Bin Laden had at least 5 Villa Hideouts in Pakistan
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2011, 05:38:06 PM »
Key word is HAD!

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Re: Bin Laden had at least 5 Villa Hideouts in Pakistan
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2011, 06:34:31 PM »
The most wanted terrorist in the world hunted by every Western secret service did not keep a getaway car ready to go. Neither were any helicopters set aside for his use at nearby Pakistan army facilities, some located less than half a kilometer from one of his makeshift residences.

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The car would be traceable and the plates would be readable from the air.

Were the Pakistani's knaves, who knew and told no one, or were they fools, and knew nothing?

I'd set the odds at 20% probability of them being knaves, 80% fools
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Re: Bin Laden had at least 5 Villa Hideouts in Pakistan
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2011, 06:48:18 PM »
The car would be traceable and the plates would be readable from the air.
No more than whoever's name the house ownership was listed.
If you think a license plate would be the problem I got a bridge to sell you.
This guy masterminded huge terror plots....a car plate would not be a problem

I'd set the odds at 20% probability of them being knaves, 80% fools

yeah sure.....as they meet with Mullah Omar....maybe they dont know who he is either?




The Gitmo Files:
Mullah Omar meets with the Pakistani ISI


By Thomas Joscelyn

May 11, 2011 3:34 PM

A recently leaked threat assessment authored at Guantanamo contains this piece of intelligence:

As of February 2005, Mullah Satter attended a meeting with Mullah Mohammed Omar in Quetta, PK. The meeting included high-level Taliban leaders Mullah Abdul Bari, Mullah Mohammed Nabi, Mullah Akhtar Mohammed Osmani, representatives from the Pakistani government and the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISID). Mullah Omar told the attendees that they should not cooperate with the new infidel government (in Afghanistan) and should keep attacking coalition forces.

This is not a real shocker, of course, as we know that the Pakistani military-intelligence establishment has sheltered Mullah Omar for years.

The file does not say how this was learned. And it would be most interesting to find out who the "representatives from the Pakistani government," in particular, were.

Another leaked Gitmo file says that former detainee Abdul Hafiz, who quickly rejoined the Taliban's jihad after being transferred in December 2009, was part of an insurgency group that "consisted of 40 to 60 Taliban and HIG fighters who were ordered by a Quetta-based Taliban commander on a mission to conduct attacks against Westerners and Afghans sympathetic to the Afghan Transitional Authority."

The same file says that in January 2003:

Three Pakistani military officers provided one month of training for the group in explosives, bomb-making, and assassination techniques. This training was conducted in preparation for a planned spring campaign to assassinate Westerners.

In March 2003, this Pakistani-trained Taliban/HIG group kidnapped and assassinated a Red Cross worker.

It is no wonder, then, that yet another leaked Gitmo file includes the Pakistani ISI on a list of "terrorist and terrorist support entities" associated with al Qaeda and the Taliban. The US officials who authored the document wrote: "Through associations with these groups and organizations, a detainee may have provided support to al Qaeda or the Taliban, or engaged in hostilities against U.S. or Coalition forces."

Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2011/05/the_gitmo_files_mullah_omar_me.php#ixzz1M5AD0swf
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