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ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« on: June 28, 2012, 12:58:10 PM »

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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 02:34:44 PM »
Of course it is a tax.

It is a tax in Massachusetts Romneycare as well.

Note that it has been ruled CONSTITUTIONAL, as it should have been.
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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 02:44:01 PM »
Taxes are within the purview of Congress. However Obama swore up and down it wasn't a tax. So was he wrong or is the Court wrong?

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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 03:11:59 PM »
The Court has ruled it was a tax, so that is what it is. Previously it was disputed, now it is not.

So what?

I really don't give a damn, and fail to see why anyone should give a damn.
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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 05:33:28 PM »
BT...ya see that's how liberals work.
The legislation was passed by saying it was not a tax.
Now it is clearly shown to be a tax.
So it was passed with a big fat lie.

Of course XO says "so what" we lied our ass off to
get the largest tax increase in human history passed.

However within 3 hours of the court's ruling,
Romney has already taken in over a million dollars!

ObamaCare is not popular.

This decision will actually help Romney get elected.

Blessings sometimes come in silver linings.

Yep lost the court battle, but I think we just won the Nov election today!



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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 08:05:05 PM »
Yeah, Roberts basically said the election is about ObamaCare. Let the voters choose what they want.

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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 09:49:52 PM »
Romney is pretty much DOOMED. People have to understand that either we reelect Obama or we get ever more expensive healthcare.

If yiou have health insurance, you won't have to pay a tax.

Dumb schmucks just don't understand diddly.

To hell with all of them.

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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 09:51:54 PM »
And here's the silver lining to what I think was the wrong ruling, but for the right reasons.  Now that Obama's lie has been exposed, that Obamacare IS a tax, despite his perseverating that it wasn't, not only is Obama screwed in his pledge not to raise taxes on the "middle income" folk, especially as it relates to funding his Obamacare, but since its a tax, it will NOT require a filibuster proof majority in the senate, if its repealed.  IIRC, 51 votes is all that needed to deal with taxation bills in the senate

Sorry, Xo
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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 10:22:49 PM »
If yiou have health insurance, you won't have to pay a tax.
Dumb schmucks just don't understand diddly.

Calling people dumb then he can't even spell "you" correctly! Ha Ha Ha

If yiou have health insurance, you won't have to pay a tax.

#1. Due to ObamaCare regulations (like requiring employers to cover adult children until they are 26 years old) and increased costs many companies will begin to not offer healthcare and employees will be forced on to ObamCare. Also some employees that pay part of their company policy premiums will switch to the "cheaper" ObamaCare which will further burden the gvt healthcare deficit because the low gvt premium wont really cover the costs. It won't happen overnight, but slowly the squeeze will be on. And this is actually the goal of the Leftist. To eventually force private health insurance companies out of business. So the government has complete control.

#2. Millions of people without insurance will be hit with the new ObamaCare Tax.

#3. The money from the ObamaCare Tax will not be enough to cover the costs of the millions of new patients so the US Taxpayer will be on the hook for the huge difference. So yes everyone will have to pay a tax directly or indirectly.

And this game is just starting.
Promises are made now that "you'll only pay this much".
But thats a lie just like the lie that ObamaCare wasn't a  tax.
Once it's passed now we know it's a tax.
It's always the Left's goal to fool the people...so they can get more of their control freak foot in the door.
Down the road just like in England and France there will be the need for massive tax increases to
cover this 2nd rate healthcare....healthcare rationing.....called gvt healthcare....ObamaCare.
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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 11:26:02 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 12:31:37 AM »
Let's see if the electorate finally gets the joke, and provides a majority Senate as well
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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2012, 01:40:05 PM »
Romney is pretty much DOOMED. People have to understand that either we reelect Obama or we get ever more expensive healthcare.

If yiou have health insurance, you won't have to pay a tax.

Dumb schmucks just don't understand diddly.

To hell with all of them.


What will make health care cheaper if we keep Obamacare?

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Re: ObamaCare Stands 5-4
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2012, 06:31:08 PM »
Take Doctors out of the equation, and have everyone treated and diagnosed by PA's  That's about the only way to make things "cheaper", yet maintain some form of quality in care, under Obamacare
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