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« on: June 05, 2013, 01:42:29 PM »
Syrian Rebels Meet Setbacks on a New Front

Syrian Rebels Drive South: In Syria, C.J. Chivers profiles Grandsons of the Prophet, a rebel unit, on its march south toward Homs.
By C. J. CHIVERS
Published: June 4, 2013 49 Comments



Roughly six weeks ago, as foreign governments were focused on whether chemical weapons had been used in Syria’s civil war, several rebel groups made a decision blending boldness and risk. Eager to break a painful near-stalemate that has settled over the war since late last summer, they opened a front here on the arid flatlands east of the Aleppo-Damascus highway.

At first the rebel thrust moved swiftly. But as the fight has unfolded, the battle here has assumed the war’s seesawing and bloody rhythm, capturing many of the dynamics of a conflict exhausting its mismatched adversaries, and putting the nation on a path toward disintegration.

The rebels had calculated that a successful offensive through the network of villages here would bypass government strong points near the cities and create fresh opportunities for severing Syria’s main highway.

In this way, they might deplete the ammunition and other supplies of army outposts in Idlib and Hama — sources of much of the shelling of civilian neighborhoods — so that the outposts could be defeated piecemeal. And it might also take pressure off a long-running siege. “We are making a corridor not to Hama, but to Homs,” said Abu Hamza al-Hamwi, from Ahfad al-Rasul, or the Grandsons of the Prophet, who commands part of the rebel forces on this new Hama front. Homs is a major city south of Hama.

The military has replied with intensive shelling and repeated airstrikes. Villages along the way have been abandoned and partly destroyed. And tensions have flared, with forces divided on sectarian lines and neighbor turning on neighbor, for profit, power and personal gain.

For many of the fighters, the new offensive had an especially emotional character, of a sort played out often in Syria’s displaced population: These were men trying to return to villages from which they had been driven at gunpoint.

In recent decades, the northeastern Hama Plain had been a demographically mixed area, its villages populated by Alawite, Sunni and Bedouin families.

After the Syrian Army was deployed into the cities in 2011, these villages assumed a tactical significance. A formerly quiet patch of not especially fertile farmland was now a buffer that insulated Hama, where the army is thickly garrisoned, and the eastern side of the Aleppo-Damascus highway, one of the military’s logistical lifelines.

The area’s new importance brought with it loyalist militias, criminal opportunities and sectarian troubles. The Alawite-led military, rebels said, set about forcing Sunni families away from villages and neighborhoods, and established a network of outposts, often supported with tanks and armored fighting vehicles, and within range of supporting rocket and artillery fire from larger outposts near the highway.

The war took an intimately ugly shape. Mohammad Ibrahim Derey, 45, a farmer and business owner from the plain who is now a rebel battalion commander, said one of his Alawite friends, Rifaat Baroudy, became the leader of a loyalist militia, known among rebels as shabiha, and began ordering Sunni farmers and families to leave.

Mr. Derey said he called Mr. Baroudy for permission to remove his possessions from his own home. He was told he could not. “I had never thought of such a thing,” he said. “I found myself jobless, homeless.”

That a man he knew well had turned on him made Mr. Derey’s losses even more disorienting. “We were friends, we had some trade together,” he said of Mr. Baroudy. “We used to have breakfast together.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/05/world/middleeast/syrian-rebels-attempt-shift-from-guerrilla-tactics.html?ref=world

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Re: Syrian Rebels Meet Setbacks on a New Front
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2013, 01:51:26 PM »
>>And tensions have flared, with forces divided on sectarian lines and neighbor turning on neighbor, for profit, power and personal gain.<<

This happened in Iraq during the chaos of that war. Neighbors would kidnap a neighbor, hold them hostage, and request a ransom for the safe return of the loved one. Most of the hostages were never returned even when the ransom was paid.

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Re: Syrian Rebels Meet Setbacks on a New Front
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2013, 10:11:13 PM »
from what i've been reading Assad now has the upper hand....via Hezbollah, Iran, & Russia
and Assad is very likely to remain in power
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 10:38:19 PM »
Assad can dominate the country, but I doubt that he can eliminate the opposition. What is more likely is a stalemate.

Take the Civil War in Lebanon, for example. Can anyone actually say that they won? It's more like everyone lost. The Shia cannot exterminate the Sunnis, and the Sunnis cannot dominate the Shia. All arrangements are simply ceasefires in which the side out of power seethes in hatred waiting for the next opportunity.
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Re: Syrian Rebels Meet Setbacks on a New Front
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2013, 12:06:55 PM »
from what i've been reading Assad now has the upper hand....via Hezbollah, Iran, & Russia and Assad is very likely to remain in power



Syrian rebels lose strategic town in boost for Assad

By Mariam Karouny

Jun 5, 2013

QUSAIR, Syria (Reuters) - Syrian government forces and their Lebanese Hezbollah allies seized control of the border town of Qusair on Wednesday, a severe setback to rebel fighters battling to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad.

Two weeks of heavy fighting reduced much of the town to piles of concrete, whole blocks flattened by shelling, with glass and rubble littering the roads as tired, delighted Syrian soldiers gathered at the bullet-riddled clock tower.

Street after deserted street lay in ruins, windows blown out, facades crumpled and trees blackened and burnt. The dome of the local mosque was damaged by rocket fire, and the walls of a church smashed open.

"We will not hesitate to crush with an iron fist those who attack us. ... Their fate is surrender or death," the Syrian armed forces command said in statement. "We will continue our string of victories until we regain every inch of Syrian land."

The fall of Qusair, which lies on a cross-border supply route with Lebanon, might make it harder to convince both sides to attend a proposed peace conference in the coming weeks, with Assad's fortunes on the rise and the opposition in disarray.

Signaling the diplomatic difficulties, international envoy for Syria Lakhdar Brahimi said in Geneva that the date for the conference had slipped back to July from June.

"The only sticking point is ... the Syrian component of the conference," he said after meeting U.S. and Russian officials.

In a frank assessment of their defeat, an opposition group from Qusair said more than 500 rebels had died in two weeks of combat, with a further 1,000 wounded, leaving just 400 outgunned men struggling to hold onto the town.

Facing determined Hezbollah guerrillas from neighboring Lebanon, who swung the fight Assad's way, the survivors decided to escape in the night through a corridor that the attackers said they had deliberately left open to encourage flight.

"We went in, there was some fighting, and then (the rebels) withdrew," said one fighter heading home to rest after four sleepless nights. "We saw them leaving in about 400 cars."

Some bodies still lay in the street; at least three men, sporting long beards, appeared to have been executed.

The capture of Qusair secures an important corridor through the central province of Homs, which links the Syrian capital Damascus to the coastal heartland of Assad's minority Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shi'ite Islam.

Bolstered by his Iranian and Russian backers, Assad's forces have launched a series of counter-offensives in recent weeks against mainly Sunni Muslim rebels battling to overthrow him and end his minority Alawite family's four-decade grip on power.

A member of a pro-Assad Syrian militia said the military focus may now move to the northern province of Aleppo, which has been largely in rebel hands for the last year.

More than 80,000 people have been killed since the Syrian revolt erupted in March 2011, and 1.6 million refugees have fled a conflict that has fuelled sectarian tensions across the Middle East, spilled over into Lebanon and divided world powers.

The muscular support of the Shi'ite group Hezbollah appears to have given Assad fresh impetus. The group, which was founded to fight Israel, said on Wednesday that the fall of Qusair showed the Syrian president was secure in power.

"Today we proved without any doubt that the gamble to topple Syria is a delusional plan," said deputy leader Naim Qassem.

Underlining the risks for Lebanon, which was wrecked by its own civil war from 1975-1990, the head of the rebel Free Syria Army warned that it might target Hezbollah on its home turf.

"Hezbollah fighters are invading Syrian territory. And when they continue to do that and the Lebanese authorities don't take any action to stop them coming to Syria, I think we are allowed to fight Hezbollah fighters inside (Lebanese) territory," Salim Idriss told the BBC.

Hezbollah's involvement also irked the Arab League, which issued a resolution after a meeting of its foreign ministers in Cairo expressing "strong condemnation" of all forms of foreign intervention, especially that by Hezbollah.

France, which like many Western countries has called for Assad to step down, acknowledged on Wednesday that his recent military gains had clearly boosted his hand.

"While we are working towards a political solution, we have to rebalance things on the ground," French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told France 24 TV. France and Britain last month forced the European Union to drop its ban on arming the rebels, but have not yet said if they plan to go down that path.

Syrian artillery and aircraft had pounded Qusair in recent days, and humanitarian agencies warned this week that as many as 1,500 wounded were trapped there. Their fate was not clear.

The International Committee of the Red Cross said it hoped to gain access to Qusair to deliver food and medical aid to civilians. Syrian authorities had told the ICRC this week that its aid workers could enter once military operations were over.

Residents had long since fled the fighting, and there were few traces left of the rebels. Near the main square a two-storey building appeared to have been used as a clinic for rebel fighters. A man's leg lay in a bag on the bloodstained floor. Tea cups had been left out and the fan was still whirring to temper the early summer heat.

The rebels said in a statement they had pulled out "in face of this huge arsenal and a lack of supplies and the blatant intervention of Hezbollah".

An opposition group called the 'Qusair Revolution' posted a statement on Facebook about what it said were the lessons learnt from the battle, accusing political exiles of ignoring them and some militia chiefs of worrying more about money than fighting.

"There are battalion leaders in this revolution whose profession has become profit. They do not move unless they have gotten enough money for their weapons and ammunitions paid for."

A security source with ties to Syrian forces said Assad's troops had left an escape route into nearby Debaa and the Lebanese border town of Arsal to encourage rebel fighters to quit Qusair, once home to 30,000 people.

"We are heading now to crush Debaa," a Syrian soldier said.

In the Hezbollah stronghold of southern Beirut, residents set off celebratory fireworks as news of Qusair's fall spread.

A senior Lebanese political source close to Hezbollah said the victory was a strategic success that would boost the morale of Assad's allies. He suggested that Hezbollah would not necessarily intervene directly in other battles but might offer indirect help to the Syrian army.

"The battle will continue in all regions, but I believe Aleppo (will be) first," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/05/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE9530VE20130605
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Re: Syrian Rebels Meet Setbacks on a New Front
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2013, 01:23:12 PM »
btw.....where is XO's outrage that OUTSIDERS are deciding the fate of Syria?
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2013, 02:32:55 PM »
I think there's been too much blood spilt for Assad to ever rule as he once did. He isn't Abraham Lincoln. And of course even Lincoln was assassinated.

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2013, 08:15:45 PM »
Why should I be outraged? In the end, no matter who wins, Syrians will run Syria. Life is unfair and unjust, but the US cannot be expected to bail out every country that is torn apart by factional violence. I seriously doubt that US intervention would bring a better government to Syria than whatever they eventually end up with.  Face it: we Americans had nothing to do with Assad ruling Syria, and we have no obligation to sacrifice American lives to bring good government to Syria. These people have been governing themselves since way before Jesus.

Libya had a small population and a huge amount of oil. It made sense to prevent Libya from getting a government that might use all that oil revenue to destabilize Egypt and other places. Syria has no major resources and a much larger population and much more divisiveness in its factions.

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2013, 09:38:43 PM »
I am not for the US getting involved in Syria, in fact I am glad Obama was wrong & did not get his way.

Whether Obama likes it or not....the Assad regime will be staying in power.

Syria is better off with Assad running Syria vs. Al-Qaeda running Syria.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2013, 09:51:07 PM »
Ugh!


That is like a choice between a house full of Babboons or a house full of cobras.

Arn't there legitimate grevances that the people of Syria have with the Assad government?

Is Al Nusra their ONLY alternative?

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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2013, 11:45:18 PM »
Al Qaeda will not be running Syria. Assad will also eventually fall. He can win battles, but he cannot regain control.

It is not up to you, Plane, or to any American who runs Syria. Syria will NEVER have a pro-US government, because Syrians despise Israel for seizing and annexing the Golan.

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