I'm shocked I tell yas.....shocked

[sirs]

Washington, DC – Today, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) issued the following statement regarding the Internal Revenue Service informing the Committee that they have lost Lois Lerner emails from a period of January 2009 – April 2011.  Due to a supposed computer crash, the agency only has Lerner emails to and from other IRS employees during this time frame.  The IRS claims it cannot produce emails written only to or from Lerner and outside agencies or groups, such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices.

“The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to Congressional inquiries.  There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice (as if that would accomplish anything....that's Run by Holder) as well as the Inspector General. 
 
“Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents.  It appears now that was an empty promise.  Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies.  Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone.  This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner.  The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials.  It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights.”
 
Oversight Subcommittee Chairman Charles Boustany Jr., M.D. (R-LA) added, "In the course of the Committee's investigation, the Administration repeatedly claimed we were getting access to all relevant IRS documents. Only now - thirteen months into the investigation - the IRS reveals that key emails from the time of the targeting have been lost.  And they bury that fact deep in an unrelated letter on a Friday afternoon.  In that same letter, they urge Congress to end the investigations into IRS wrongdoing. This is not the transparency promised to the American people. 

If there is no smidgeon of corruption what is the Administration hiding?"
 
This would have absolutely brought down a Republican president.......but with Obama......cue the crickets

[Christians4LessGvt]

This administration has declared war on this country!

The Obama Administration is the most corrupt in US History
and many of them belong in prison and will one day be
brought to justice.

[Plane]

   IS the computer where the e-mails were composed available?

     When it is important , the FBI can unearth deleted files , or even files from crashed memories.


         If this is worth a lot of effort to cover up, it is also worth a lot of effort to uncover.

[sirs]

The FBI is under the jurisdiction of Holder.  Even if it could, that won't happen

[Plane]

  Is this administration more worried about its reputation being sullied by lots of evidence being destroyed , or by lots of evidence being examined?

   Is this a silly thing to ask?

[sirs]

I don't think they're worried, since they have the MSM on their side, and no Presidential election to be bothered with again.  All they have to do is keep pulling out the race card anytime their reputation is being pressed upon, and keep "accidentally" losing every piece of potentially hazardous evidence, that would link them, since the MSM has no intention of doing their job....unless of course this were a Republican President

Not a "smidgen" of corruption, huh Mr. President?  Yea, right.  This is wreaking of it now.  No wonder Lerner took the 5th.

[Plane]

What crashes and carries away the e-mail history?

I have a government e-mail account , and the e-mails are not stored on my shops computer.

The e-mail account is on a server maintained on another AFB.

[sirs]

I'm no computer guru, but I agree that the "other side" of the e-mail would demonstrate the record....the problem is that you don't know who her e-mails went to.  She was the hub to the wheel.  Of course the DoJ has her e-mail....and the WH....and every Democrat politician she made contact to in regards to this issue.  They can go on their merry way of not cooperating, and since the MSM won't follow-up, then claim this is some GOP witch hunt and/or "that was so long ago"....

That they did not have e-mail relations with that woman, Miss Lerner.  They never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And they need to go back to work for the American people......period.....now go away

[Plane]

There is nothing I could do at my computer station that would get rid of my e-mail history, except to actually command a "delete".

If my computer burnt to ash the e-mail account would be unaffected.

I access the account from a different computer every day, so when the IRS claims that a single hard drive crash lost a lot of her e-mails , I think that this is strange.

[sirs]

the IRS told the House Ways and Means Committee, after a year of investigation, that emails belonging to former head of taxpayer organizations Lois Lerner dated between January 2009 and April 2011 have been "lost."
 
Now, the IRS has announced it can't find emails belonging to six high ranking officials involved in the IRS targeting of conservative and tea party groups. One of those officials is former chief of staff to former Acting Commissioner Steven Miller, Nikole Flax. The "lost" emails fall during the time period when "the Washington, DC office wrote and directed the Cincinnati field office to send abusive questionnaires, including inappropriate demands for donor information, to conservative groups," according to the House Ways and Means Committee. During his time at the IRS, Miller made numerous trips to the White House according to visitor logs.
 
“It looks like the American people were lied to and the IRS tried to cover-up the fact it conveniently lost key documents in this investigation. The White House promised full cooperation, the Commissioner promised full access to Lois Lerner emails and now the Agency claims it cannot produce those materials and they’ve known for months they couldn’t do this," Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp said about the revelations. “Even when the IRS does admit something, they are not fully honest with us. Despite their attempt to bury the missing Lerner emails on page 15 of a 27 page letter that arrived late Friday, we now know documents from other central figures, like Nikole Flax, are missing. The fact that Ms. Flax was a frequent visitor to the White House and the Eisenhower Executive Office Building only raises more questions. Who was she visiting at the White House and what were they talking about? Was she updating the White House on the targeting or was she getting orders? These are answers we don’t yet have, because – surprise, surprise – a few computers crashed. Plot lines in Hollywood are more believable than what we are getting from this White House and the IRS."
 
Not surprisingly, the IRS kept this latest email "loss" from Congress for months. According to Ways and Means "investigators have confirmed that the Agency first knew of the destroyed emails as early as February 2014 – nearly three months prior to newly installed Commissioner John Koskinen telling the Committee the IRS would produce all of Lois Lerner’s emails."
 
“This entire investigation has been slow-walked by the Administration while they denied any wrongdoing and tried blaming ‘low-level’ workers in Cincinnati – all of which we have proven to be wrong. This entire case started with the White House and top Democrats in the Senate using the bully pulpit to bully law-abiding Americans because they dared to stand up for their own political beliefs. The only way for Democrats to have any credibility on this issue is to immediately give an independent prosecutor full access and full authority to investigate every angle of this case," Camp said.
 
Emails don't get lost. The IRS is lying. IRS officials are currently weighing their options about which lies they are willing to tell, to the American people and Congress, and what the consequences for those lies will be. IRS Commissioner John Koskinen will testify in front of the House Ways and Means Committee next week.

This could & probably would impeach a Republican President

[sirs]

Here's where & why each branch of Government is to check the other, as designed by our founders.  Per the assistance of Sheryl Atkinson, Congress, with the support of the Judiciary if needed, should immediately request that the IRS:

•Provide a timeline of "the crash" and documentation covering when it was first discovered and by whom; when, how and by whom it was learned that materials were lost; the official documentation reporting the crash and federal data loss; documentation reflecting all attempts to recover the materials; and the remediation records documenting the fix. This material should include the names of all officials and technicians involved, as well as all internal communications about the matter.

•Provide all documents and emails that refer to the crash from the time that it happened through the IRS’ disclosure to Congress Friday that it had occurred.

•Provide the documents that show the computer crash and lost data were appropriately reported to the required entities including any contractor servicing the IRS. If the incident was not reported, please explain why.

•Provide a list summarizing what other data was irretrievably lost in the computer crash. If the loss involved any personal data, was the loss disclosed to those impacted? If not, why?

•Provide documentation reflecting any security analyses done to assess the impact of the crash and lost materials. If such analyses were not performed, why not?

•Provide documentation showing the steps taken to recover the material, and the names of all technicians who attempted the recovery.

•To explain why redundancies required for federal systems were either not used or were not effective in restoring the lost materials, and provide documentation showing how this shortfall has been remediated.

•Provide any documents reflecting an investigation into how the crash resulted in the irretrievable loss of federal data and what factors were found to be responsible for the existence of this situation.

•to ask for those who discovered and reported the crash to testify under oath, as well as any officials who reported the materials as having been irretrievably lost. 

[Plane]

   When the Chinese government complained that their fighter jet was run down by one of our four engine prop jets I thought that they lost a lot of credibility in the fact that the fighter had twice the speed and also greater maneuverability than the heavily loaded big spy plane. It was ridiculous to claim that the slower plane had attacked and run down the fighter, it just doesn't work that way.

      The IRS is claiming that the crash of a hard drive has destroyed an e-mail record.


       Wait a minute, who keeps their e-mail history on their own hard drive?

[sirs]

“The IRS tea-party audit story isn't Watergate; it's worse than Watergate.  The Watergate break-in was the professionals of the party in power going after the party professionals of the party out of power. The IRS scandal is the party in power going after the most average Americans imaginable”