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sirs

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Re: Chicago vs Houston ---->Guns
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2015, 02:54:12 PM »
That is utter rubbish.

Facts don't lie.....in this country, in regions with more permissive gun laws, allowing more law abiding GOOD "gun nuts" to own and carry firearms, the less violent crime and shootings, compared to those regions with far stricter gun laws


How do you propose that we have more "good" gun nuts? By making bad gun nuts good, or by arming previously unarmed nuts?

More idiocy on display.  Ironically, on a bit of a tangent, that's what Democrat led legislatures & executives have been doing in CA, citing a decrease in crime, by way of ..... reclassifying what was once felonies into misdemeanors, and misdemeanors into infractions......whalaaa....less violent crime.  Can't wait to watch those crime numbers surge when all those criminals let out early, start returning to their former criminal selves

But back to the question posed, minus the idiotic attempts to answer it, the 1 thing you DON'T do is to take away the guns from the good gun nuts.  You also enforce existing gun laws, and you make sure anyone that applies for a CCW, goes thru a thorough background check, and proficiency training.  You also encourage additional higher level training, to add stress in the training with a firearm


Just yesterday one of your gun nuts in North Carolina killed some of his neighbors over a fence.

Now, he wasn't one of the good gun nuts, now was he.  Shall we now add the 10times as many stories, where a gun was used to save lives, by good gun nuts?


I doubt that he would have killed so many of them with a crowbar or a knife.

And why not?  There are people killed by knives and other weapons, all over the globe.  2 fellas in china killed 29 with their blades


But they were Muslims, so maybe that is okay by you.

See....such an ignorant ass, you can be.  NO ONE IS OK TO BE KILLED, BE THEY BLACK, MUSLIM, GAY, WOMAN, OR ANY OTHER IDIOTIC NICHE YOU WANT TO PULL.  Now, if someone is trying to kill you, I'd even defend you from that.  The point is how one uses a gun.  Its simply a tool.  a tool in the hands of a good, law abiding, responsible gun owner, becomes an incredibly effective deterrent to anyone trying to harm someone else.  In the hands of someone irresponsible, or with criminal intent......well, let's just say, that's when you pray one of those good gun nuts are around
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Re: Chicago vs Houston ---->Guns
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2015, 03:30:49 PM »
You have to be a real ninja to kill 29 people with a knife, even if you have an assistant.
China has four times as many people, and therefore it is probably safe to assume that it has four times as many homicidal maniacs.
The Chinese are not nearly so well armed as Americans.

Shall we assume that all gun nuts are good gun nuts until they demonstrate otherwise by plugging their neighbors?
I don't think this sort of thing happens nearly so often in Switzerland.
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Re: Chicago vs Houston ---->Guns
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2015, 06:08:42 PM »
You have to be a real ninja to kill 29 people with a knife, even if you have an assistant.

Apparently, neither were....and still managed to mass kill with blades, not guns.  Point being its the person not the tool.


Shall we assume that all gun nuts are good gun nuts until they demonstrate otherwise by plugging their neighbors?

Not at all.  Nor should we assume every person that wants to exercise the 2nd amendment rights, should have to square it with Government 1st
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Re: Chicago vs Houston ---->Guns
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2015, 06:39:15 PM »
That sounds like a good idea. Say, they might even REGISTER  their guns with the Federal government.
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Re: Chicago vs Houston ---->Guns
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2015, 06:45:05 PM »
But they won't, since that's 180degrees counter to the whole purpose of the 2nd amendment
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Re: Chicago vs Houston ---->Guns
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2015, 09:31:07 PM »
Again, if we had the gun laws that the Swiss have, fewer people would be shot.

If you mean a lot of encouragement for responsible behavior , we might have an agreement there.

Could responsible and safe gun handling be taught as a high school course?

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Re: Chicago vs Houston ---->Guns
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2015, 09:45:17 PM »
Again, if we had the gun laws that the Swiss have, fewer people would be shot.

If you mean a lot of encouragement for responsible behavior , we might have an agreement there.

Could responsible and safe gun handling be taught as a high school course
?

Now THAT sounds like a good idea.  Make sure that its complimented by a strong course in Civics, with emphasis on Constitutional study. 

Don't worry professor, the class wouldn't include any ammunition.  That would be bullets.  Dry handing is just as educational as handing a loaded firearm.  Removes any chance of an accidental shooting
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