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Iran Blinked and the hawks aren't happy
« on: April 07, 2007, 11:50:39 PM »
Hawks for Humiliation: Am I missing something? Why exactly was the resolution of the latest Iran hostage crisis a "success" for Iran and a "humiliation" for Britain, as the hawkish Charles Krauthammer argues (and Geoffrey Wheatcroft insinuates but doesn't quite come out and say in his own voice, as opposed to John Bolton's)? The hostages were released in a one-day propaganda stunt, maybe in exchange for the release of an Iranian we were holding and Iranian visitation rights for some others. But the Iranians were also looking at an awful lot of aircraft carriers steaming around their neighborhood. Didn't they blink? If that's humiliation, it's not far from what a U.S.-U.K. victory in the crisis would look like. I counter the right hand with the far right hand--an analysis on David Horowitz's FrontPage site that departs significantly from the Bolton-Krauthammer party line:

As Britain refused to apologize for the behavior of its boarding party, continuing to insist that they were operating in dsfaIraqi waters – not inside Iran's territorial waters, as Tehran alleged – some of Khamenei's advisors began to have second thoughts.

Adding to those doubts were whispered reports that the USS Nimitz was steaming toward the Persian Gulf– making it the third Carrier Strike Group in the area. [snip]

So for now, Tehran's leaders have backed down.

Isn't that what Krauthammer and Bolton would be arguing in other circumstances--i.e, if they weren't favoring some sort of military confrontation with Iran? Would they have been happier if the Iranians hadn't caved so easily? Just asking! .. P.S.: See also Walid Phares' analysis, which focuses less on the Nimitz and more on the looming propaganda setback for Iran. ... 2:28 P.M. link


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Re: Iran Blinked and the hawks aren't happy
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 12:22:04 AM »
The Brits got back their sailors for, apparently, not much they had to give back. Sounds like a win for the good guys to me.

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Re: Iran Blinked and the hawks aren't happy
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 12:29:10 AM »
The end result was fine by me also


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Re: Iran Blinked and the hawks aren't happy
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 12:31:25 AM »
Now, if the sailors were harmed in serious any way, then I would have wanted more than this as a result. But, apparently anyway, that did not happen. Thankfully.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2007, 12:55:54 AM by The_Professor »

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Re: Iran Blinked and the hawks aren't happy
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2007, 10:03:02 PM »
Speak softly?

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Re: Iran Blinked and the hawks aren't happy
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2007, 01:01:41 AM »
Yep. What you do is utilize diplomacy as best you can and if that doesn't work, you make them painfully aware to NEVER do it again. Something that will be remembered for quite some time.

I am glad it all worked out. But if it wouldn't have, then you make sure everyone puts it in BOLD FACE in the history books.

If the female sailor would have been raped, as only one example, I would have advocated a SEVERE response -- see above. I would bascially do what we are doing, e.g. "walking softly", in this case carrier task groups. They are there but not shooting at anyone. But, if someone does, then:

"Our Tomahawks will block out the sun."
« Last Edit: April 09, 2007, 01:05:47 AM by The_Professor »