Happy anniversary

[hnumpah]

What was Saddam doing that we cannot do to supress insurgency? Was it that the people feared him more than they do us?

Well, yes, actually, him and his army, which was very loyal to him, and very prepared to keep order in Iraq at Saddam's order. The army we dismissed out of hand and sent home as soon as we declared the war over, putting thousands out of work at one stroke of the pen - thousands who were well armed and already had a grudge against us to start with, but who might have been used to our advantage instead. If only the administration had had the foresight.

[sirs]

What was Saddam doing that we cannot do to supress insurgency? Was it that the people feared him more than they do us?

Well, yes, actually, him and his army, which was very loyal to him, and very prepared to keep order in Iraq at Saddam's order. The army we dismissed out of hand and sent home as soon as we declared the war over, putting thousands out of work at one stroke of the pen - thousands who were well armed and already had a grudge against us to start with, but who might have been used to our advantage instead. If only the administration had had the foresight.

100% agreed

[Plane]

What was Saddam doing that we cannot do to supress insurgency? Was it that the people feared him more than they do us?

Well, yes, actually, him and his army, which was very loyal to him, and very prepared to keep order in Iraq at Saddam's order. The army we dismissed out of hand and sent home as soon as we declared the war over, putting thousands out of work at one stroke of the pen - thousands who were well armed and already had a grudge against us to start with, but who might have been used to our advantage instead. If only the administration had had the foresight.

It might have worked better ,for all I know ,to have employed the Iriqui Army , how could we have known, or avoided,same problem as we are haveing with infiltration into the present Iriqui Army ?

There were and are a lot of Iriqui government officials liveing in Syria and presumably they couold have used their contacts within the Iriqui Army at least as well as they can with useing infilrators.

[sirs]

<<Actually, as I've already demonstrated previously, you don't have to take my word for it, the Iraqis themselves have been polled indicating so. >>

They polled a sample taken from those Iraqis who are unaware of the violence.

LOL...perhaps in Tee's twisted alternate version of reality.  IIRC the polling was being taken at some of the worst of the insurgent violence.  The mere notion you'd try to spin this as some poll of Iraqis who've been living on some deserted island is lunacy at it's finest

<< . . . leading to sure open ended civil war, and an enviroment just ripe for the likes of AlQeada to take root, like they had in Afghanistan>>

Wow, sure glad nothing like THAT has happened.

Yea, same here.  Oh, and FYI, I'm able to differentiate between open civil war, where the Government has lost all control, and sectarion violence.  I'm not surprised that you can't

[Michael Tee]

<<Where did they find thousands of Iraqis in Iraq that are "unaware of the violence" taking place in Iraq?>>

Same place they found all those American leaders who truly believed that Iraq and its nonexistent WMD's posed some kind of dire threat to the U.S.A.

[Michael Tee]

<<LOL...perhaps in Tee's twisted alternate version of reality.  IIRC the polling was being taken at some of the worst of the insurgent violence.  The mere notion you'd try to spin this as some poll of Iraqis who've been living on some deserted island is lunacy at it's finest>>

What it actually is, is mis-aimed sarcasm that passed way over your head.  Again.

[sirs]

And on a related note, on Dec 7th, 1942, Senate Majority Leader, Alben W. Barkley, lead a Democratic contingent with demands to President Franklin D Roosevelt, that the war with Japan & Germany was lost, and that we needed to withdrawl our troops by the Summer of '43

Oh......wait a minute