The "Elvis Factor" is growing in the Dem party

[sirs]

It's hard to imagine that only 39% of Democrats are actually rationally minded.  At least according to Rasmussen

22% Believe Bush Knew About 9/11 Attacks in Advance
Friday, May 04, 2007

Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure.

Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view.

Overall, 22% of all voters believe the President knew about the attacks in advance. A slightly larger number, 29%, believe the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. White Americans are less likely than others to believe that either the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. Young Americans are more likely than their elders to believe the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance.

However, just 8% of voters say the CIA was Very Truthful before the War in Iraq. Another 33% believe the CIA was Somewhat Truthful. Most, 52%, believe the CIA was Not Very Truthful or Not at All Truthful before the War.

Still, 57% have a favorable opinion of the CIA. Thirty-six percent (36%) have an unfavorable view.

Former CIA Director George Tenet doesn’t fare so well. He is viewed favorably by 29% of voters and unfavorably by 49%.

Just 12% have followed news stories about Tenet’s new book Very Closely. Another 29% have followed the stories Somewhat Closely. Fifty-six percent (56%) have not been following the news stories about Tenet.


Tee's not alone 

[Xavier_Onassis]

How can anybody be entirely sure of what Juniorbush, o0r the CIA, or some other grey eminence in the party knew?

It was certain that Juniorbush wanted to invade Iraq.

It is pretty certain that without 9-11, he could not have done so.

It is a certainty that the CIA was famous forr manipulating people: their tricks in France, Italy, and Australia are well known, as was their manipulation of the end of Sukarno in 1960 and Allende in 1971, and that Olebush, a former CIA director knew about many a dirty trick, and no doubt approved of more than a few.


How can anyone NOT suspect that something is fishy?
 

[Plane]

A slightly larger number, 29%, believe the CIA knew about the attacks in advance.
However, just 8% of voters say the CIA was Very Truthful before the War in Iraq.
 
Another 33% believe the CIA was Somewhat Truthful.

 Most, 52%, believe the CIA was Not Very Truthful or Not at All Truthful before the War.

Still, 57% have a favorable opinion of the CIA. Thirty-six percent (36%) have an unfavorable view.

Truthfull?

Truthfull is not in the CIA job description .

57% have a favorable opinion of the CIA much better than the president or Congress only eight percent thought the CIA truthfull.

So

49%don't mind spies lies.

[sirs]

Apparently XO isn't among that 39% of rationally minded Democrats.  Bummers     

[R.R.]

Unfortunately, every Democrat here except Domer suffers from BDS and probably believes Bush Knew.

[sirs]

I don't think Js is inflicted, nor H, despite how wrong he is about the supposed cherry picking.  And I'm optimistic that Chicky is healthy as well.  But I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of self proclaimed Libs/Dems, here in the saloon, fall into that 61%       

[Brassmask]

Early on, I believed that Bush knew about them but after a while I realized that those who did know (I count Cheney among them) had little to no confidence that Bush would be able to keep the act up so they didn't tell him.

It is really apparent that Cheney and his gang of neo-cons had foreknowledge and that is why they pushed so hard for the invasion of Iraq on 9.11 and after.  The PNAC clearly states that it might take a "Pearl-Harbor-type event" to convince the American Public to support the invasion.  That's why the neo-cons had to put the idea that Saddam had something to do with Iraq into the American Peoples' minds.  They did so knowing they wanted to invade Iraq (for oil or whatever) and so when they went to sleep on any investigations of ObL, and he got his people in to do the deed (allegedly [I'm still open to the idea that rogue black op operatives could have made it happen easily]), they could already be pushing Iraq and Saddam, so when they actually did invade after playing the game for a while, they wouldn't get lynched on the White House lawn.

[BT]

Regime change was US policy since 98 .

[sirs]

Early on, I believed that Bush knew about them but after a while I realized that those who did know (I count Cheney among them) had little to no confidence that Bush would be able to keep the act up so they didn't tell him.  It is really apparent that Cheney and his gang of neo-cons had foreknowledge and that is why they pushed so hard for the invasion of Iraq on 9.11 and after.  

 

And with that bit of folly to help put me to sleep with, I bid you all a good week, hope every mother had a great Mother's day (Especially Miss Kim), and see ya'll when I get back from helping to stimulate our economy for the next week......I'm on vacation     

[Xavier_Onassis]

Regime change was US policy since 98 .

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Violent, invade- Iraq and depose Saddam with the US armed forces, however, was not.

Without 9/11, Iraq would still have been uninvaded, and we would be discussing health care, gay rights, income inequality and education, among other matters.

9/11 made the Iraq War possible. Of this there is zero doubt.
 
It is STILL a fact that Olebush was head of the CIA and managed many a dirty trick.
It is STILL a fact that intense propaganda and deliberate ignorance of the facts were used to put forth the case for invading Iraq.
Cheney lies, Rummy Lies, Juniorbush lies.
There is much reason for suspicion.

Not to suspect it akin to belief in the tooth fairy and independently circumnavigating garden gnomes.

[BT]

Violent, invade- Iraq and depose Saddam with the US armed forces, however, was not.

Right those 40 days of missiles were just fireworks displays.

And what dirty tricks did OLEBUSH manage?