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domer

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Edwards on a Limb
« on: May 23, 2007, 08:41:51 PM »
By distinguishing himself from the Democratic pack (as matters stand as of this writing) on the issue of signing off on the military funding bill even though it does not contain a redeployment time table, John Edwards, whom I basically respect both as a man and a man with a message, may be marking an entirely different turf for himself (from the "peace candidate" he covets), that is, "panderer to the Left," or, substantively, "muddler of foreign policy." It's not that Edwards is the most blatant panderer on either side but simply the most recent, in a way that commits to a policy (should he be elected) that hasn't been thoroughly vetted by the Democrats.

When, whether and how to leave Iraq have largely been ignored as discussion topics or debating points among the Democrats, with the mantra "the people want" substituting for any significant thought. Yet, the dance between the administration and the Democrats over war funding has nonetheless brought, if not fruit, at least "movement (benchmarks, etc.) with caution," probably the objective, dispassionate wisest course as we feel our way forward.

The Iraq War, even yet, has not had an adequate public debate with the heavyweights on either side (save for McCain) offering clear, reasoned andd compelling ideas on what to do next. It is undeniable that "Bush's Bungle" (which you can define as either entry in the first place or a supreme botching of the aftermath, the occupation) colors the venture yet, poisoning now what should be defined instead as an entirely new situation, with entirely new ramifications of its own. Maybe withdrawal and a coordinated all-points effort at hostile suppression and diplomatic-prevention of terrorist strategies is indeed the best course to follow. But to my mind and for my money (a cheap way to indicate everything valuable), that case simply hasn't been made. What happens if we largely redeploy? Slogans don't substitute for thought. 

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Re: Edwards on a Limb
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2007, 09:10:17 PM »
<<Slogans don't substitute for thought.>>

There has been plenty of time for thought and I can't believe that in all that time nobody has given any thought to what comes after a pull-out.  We all know that various thinkers have arrived at various conclusions and there is no unanimous agreement.

Omar Khayyam (Fitzgerald's translation) said it best:

Myself when young did eagerly frequent
  Doctor and Saint, and heard great Argument
About it and about: but evermore
  Came out of the same Door as in I went.

It should be apparent by now that a call for more thought on the issue is just a call for delay and more killing.  If there is no consensus now, there is never going to be one.  How long do you expect a judge in one of your trials to allow the jury to continue its deliberations?  Four years?  You have to develop some degree of rational skepticism on the problem-solving abilities of pure thought.  Sometimes if you're stuck in a swamp and you keep losing guys to the alligators, the decision has to be made:  Get the fuck outta the swamp.  Just because you don't know where you're gonna find yourselves after you haul your ass out of that swamp is no reason to stay stuck in the same position indefinitely.

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Re: Edwards on a Limb
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2007, 11:45:02 PM »
I appreciate the thoughts, Michael, which illustrate my fundamental, underlying (and unstated) premise: we simply don't know what we're doing, with the caution that things could get very much worse. For now, fully exploiting my status as "armchair general," I urge a probing vivisection of our present body of thinking, avoiding anything precipitous unless in response to a genuine and compelling crisis.