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Plane

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RIFD or elese
« on: November 27, 2007, 12:50:55 AM »
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This week's question concerns the forcible implantation of radio
 frequency
identification (RFID) tags in people. In 2006, Cincinnati-based
 surveillance
company CityWatcher.com required its employees to be implanted with the
 tags.
The Council on Ethical and Judicial Affairs, which develops policies
 for the
American Medical Association, found that there is no guarantee that the
information contained in the tags can be properly protected. The
 Council also
found that RFID tags might travel under the skin, making them hard to
 remove at
a later time. California has recently joined Wisconsin and North Dakota
 in
passing legislation that prohibits employers and others from forcing
 anyone to
have an RFID device implanted under their skin. What do you think?
 Should people
ever be forced to have RFID tags implanted?
Submit your answer and post
 your
comments at: http://link.abpi.net/l.php?20071126A12


Last week's question concerned the likelihood of electronics waste
 worsening as
consumption increases. We asked if a fee should be added to the
 purchase price
of consumer electronic products and reimbursed only when the consumer
 properly
disposes of them. Sixty-eight percent of you said yes and 32 percent
 said no.
Here's more of what you had to say:

"Electronics - or anything else that would be dangerous if disposed of
 as trash
into an ordinary sanitary landfill - should have an associated deposit
 big
enough to get people's attention. For most electronics, deposits of $10
 - $200
should work. Suggested rule of thumb: deposit should be 1/3 of purchase
 price -
more at lower purchase price, but never more than purchase price."
- Charles G. Scouten

"No, who would administrate a program like this, the government? What
 would THAT
cost?"
- PJ Stoehr

"A fee on industrial products won't stop people from throwing items in
 the
garbage that should be recycled, anymore than higher gas prices will
 stop people
from driving. We should educate people on why they should recycle
 versus
throwing everything in the trash. Start with elementary school students
 and work
our way up to the adults. Let the consumer influence the environment
 they live
in."
- Bill A.


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Re: RIFD or elese
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 11:51:23 PM »
There's some evidence they cause cancer when implanted in pets.  I wouldn't want one.

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Re: RIFD or elese
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 11:58:24 PM »
There's some evidence they cause cancer when implanted in pets.  I wouldn't want one.

So does eating hamburgers.
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Re: RIFD or elese
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2007, 06:15:01 PM »
Eating hamburgers can be a pleasant experience, and rarely results in cancer.
If one is quite hungry, one feels content after eating a good hamburger

Having a chip implanted under one's skin is never going to be pleasant.
It will always be creepy to any normal humans.


I suppose that one day, we will have someone who makes it seem desireable, like those commercials that some bankcard is running, where everything is going along rapidly and happily with music and fun for all, until some killjoy pulls out a checkbook or lays cash on the counter. Then the music stops, the pretty whirling balls fall from the sky, and everyone gives the cashpasser or checkwriter a really dirty look for spoiling all their fun. The next customer swipes his card, and the fun starts back up.

We will probably be told that if we have the implant, for only $100 or so, like the transponders we use for tollroads like MDX uses here in South Florida, we won't have to wait, we can breeze thru security at the mall, at the airport, and such. If there is a lot of resistence, they will give them away, like they did with the transponders.  And a lot of people will have them implanted. By the next generation, hospitals will implant the fool things at birth. The parents will have agred to this before admittance to the delivery room. It will be like circumcision used to be.

These things will make controlling bad people so much easier.
The problem is that if you are in any way creative or unique, eventually someone will think you are a bad person.

The other day I went into a Navarro Pharmacy and bought a tube of toothpaste. I paid for it, but when I walked out, this alarm went off, and some guard called me back. I ignored him. Why wouldn't I? If they had me arrested I could sue their miserable Cuban butts off.

I got into my car and drove away. There were a bunch of people standing in the doorway, watching the evil Gringo leave. I bet they thought that I was breaking some law, by leaving their damned store without their permission.

 
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