<<uh we wont be starting a war
<<Israel and the US will be finishing a war that has been going on since 1979>>
You're just playing with words, CU4. There hasn't been any war between Iran and the U.S.A. since 1979 or since yesterday. Iran might be backing factions in Iraq that are at odds with the factions backed by the U.S.A., but as far as I can see, Iran has as much right to back certain Iraqi Shi'ite death squads as the U.S. has to back other Iraqi Sunni and Shi'ite death squads.
<<I hope they DESTROY IRAN>>
80 million fellow human beings you hope to see destroyed? For what? Exactly what did they do to deserve it?
<<If Israel attacks Iran's nuclear facilities
and Iran responds with missles on Israeli population centers . . . >>
How else
would they respond? How else
should they respond? They're supposed to just bend over and take it up the ass? God damn right, if they have the capability, that's how they SHOULD respond to an Israeli strike on their nation. And save a few missiles for the U.S. bases next door in Iraq as well, for enabling the Israelis in the first place.
<< . . . Israel may very well decide Iran will cease to exist
Nada, gone, vaporized>>
If the Israelis were ever stupid enough and evil enough to even make the attempt, that would be the end of the Zionist state in the Middle East. There is absolutely no way on earth that Israel could avoid anihilation after killing even a hundred thousand Muslims. If you have any doubts at all on that score, think back to the last invasion of Lebanon, when Israeli bombs killed a few dozen Lebanese children - - the outrage generated by the deaths caused a one-day moratorium on Israeli airstrikes in the war. The only real reason for this that I can think of is that the general outrage, if not slaked, could have led to the overthrow of the do-nothing American puppet regimes in the area. The Israelis are skating on some very thin ice and they at least have sense enough to know it.
<<. . . that i asuure you the Mullahs will understand.>>
The problem is, CU4, they might not understand it in the same way that you or I would. The conclusions they draw from it and the actions they take in response to it might take on a kind of vengeful tone, to say the least of it.
<<And what the hell is anyone gonna do Michael?>>
Does "anyone" include the Pakistani middle classes who keep the current military regime in power, or the junior officers who are expected to sit around sipping tea while the army that owns the world's only "Muslim bomb" idly watches the nuking of millions of Muslims by an upstart state of maybe 7 million Jews and does absolutely nothing about it?
Does "anyone" include the Russians and Chinese who can see the advantage in establishing their own bases in this region?
<<China, Russia aren't going to do shit.>>
No, China especially doesn't give a shit about securing future energy needs. They wouldn't know how to reach outlawed Communist Party and other groups in any of the Middle Eastern states and they wouldn't understand how the existing governments in the region could be subverted because no one in China is as smart as the C.I.A. And an Israeli attack on Iran would just endear the U.S. and Israel to everyone else in the region.
What I would really expect to see is that a lot of middle class, educated people who currently see their own advantage in supporting American puppet governments becoming a lot more friendly to Chinese and Russian initiatives in the area once the Chinese and Russians could make it known that they need not be personally disadvantaged in a regime change that turfed out all American influence.
<<Oh the Arab world will get mad
WhoopTeeeeDooo>>
Well, the Arab world got mad when the Jews killed a few dozen children in Lebanon two years ago, and NOBODY was saying "WhoopTeeeeeDoooo." They were, IMHO, scared shitless of what could happen.
<<We need to finish this war NOW!>>
You can't do it. Because you are a nation of big-talking punk-ass chickenshits who have already bitten off more than you can chew in Iraq, which you will soon be leaving with nothing to show for your efforts. The problem is, you don't have the balls to engage the natives of the region mano-a-mano because they are willing to die for their land and oil and you are not. The kind of war you are willing to wage is high-tech minimum-casualty (minimum for
you) warfare, but the problem with that is that you don't have control of the ground and you can't continue the effort indefinitely because of the cost. You know it and they know it. Which is why you have already lost the war in Iraq and will soon lose the war in Afghanistan. Best to do as you finally seem to be doing, declare victory and get the hell out. Say that the surge has worked and plan a more or less dignified exit, avoiding if at all possible the helicopters-on-the-roof scenario that made your last unbelievable fuck-up so enjoyable to watch.
<<To do otherwise is a disgrace.>>
Oh, I wouldn't really worry about disgrace at this point. You've already disgraced yourselves so thoroughly in the eyes of the world that you can't get any lower in most people's opinion. You've really hit bottom this time.
