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sirs

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Some things never change
« on: August 24, 2008, 06:21:56 PM »
Hasta La Vista, Arnold

Some things never change in the Golden State. Seven weeks into the fiscal year, California still has no budget and faces a Pacific Ocean-sized $15 billion deficit. On Wednesday, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger offered a "compromise" plan that kicks the legs out from his own party with a big new sales tax increase. "It's time to put ideology aside," he insisted.

Now he faces a revolt from Republicans in the legislature who think this is precisely the time to be ideological. "Any tax increase plan won't pass with Republican votes -- absolutely not," a defiant Mike Villines, minority leader of the state assembly, told me shortly after the governor's scheme was announced. Mr. Schwarzenegger wants to raise the sales tax by one percentage point, which in jurisdictions like Los Angeles would raise the total sales levy to 10% -- one of the highest in the nation. "It will hurt the state and hurt people on fixed incomes," Mr. Villines protests.

He and his colleagues offer their own solution.
First, no new taxes in a state that already has nearly the highest income and sales tax burden in the country.
Second, a "hard" budget cap that limits spending increases to the rate of inflation plus population growth. Under Governor Arnold, in contrast, the budget has grown 40% in just four years.

Mr. Villines' Republican lawmakers face a stacked deck in the Democratic liberal majority, their own GOP governor, and the California media. Assembly Republicans walked out of a meeting with the governor earlier this week when he started talking new taxes, but Democrats desperately wanted an income tax increase, so Mr. Schwarzenegger views a sales tax hike as a down-the-middle "compromise."

This may be a war California conservatives can win for once in their tax-and-spend state. "There's a silent majority in California against yet another tax increase," Mr. Villines asserts. With gas prices, food prices, unemployment and mortgage foreclosures all rising in the Golden State, he may be right.


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Re: Some things never change
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2008, 06:30:18 PM »
better a sales tax increase than a property or income tax increase.

Less people can dodge the bullet.


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Re: Some things never change
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2008, 06:36:35 PM »
Even better....no tax increase, and Responsibly living within one's budget means/limits
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Re: Some things never change
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2008, 06:47:01 PM »
States are required to balance the budget.

If i were the GOP i would embrace the sales tax and make sure the citizens knew the increase was because the dems wouldn't cut the budget.

And in the meantime i would be figuring out where to cut and how deep with the resultant cut back come the time the GOP is the majority.




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Re: Some things never change
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2008, 08:08:48 PM »
States are required to balance the budget.   If i were the GOP i would embrace the sales tax and make sure the citizens knew the increase was because the dems wouldn't cut the budget.

That might be the truth, but the overwhelming spin, as perpetuated by the MSM would be how the GOP capitulated, how the GOP also supports tax hikes on "the rich", and in the event its a sales tax hike, supports tax hikes on the middle & lower classes as well, thus being demonstrated as weak-kneed hypocrites, since the Dems have always been pro such tax hikes


And in the meantime i would be figuring out where to cut and how deep with the resultant cut back come the time the GOP is the majority.

Well, they've had countless years to figure that out, being in the minority for........how long now?  Let's hope they have better succes and continginces ready to impliment, than Bush had post-Saddam



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Re: Some things never change
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2008, 08:17:16 PM »
It's not as easy to cut expenses as one thinks. The big problem is they spend money based on future tax collections.

What they should do is spend money based on last years receipts. Take in 50 billion spend 45 and put aside 5.

The sales tax is the way to go. It's the state level equivalent to the fair tax at the national level. Property tax has a built in 15% non collection rate. I doubt non collected sales tax is anywhere near that.

Consider Arnie giving that idea a trial run.


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Re: Some things never change
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2008, 10:21:28 PM »
Even better....no tax increase, and Responsibly living within one's budget means/limits


as we californians say
that`s crazy talk

but seriously bt is totally on the mark on this
I`ve seen how the money is used here
and there is other factors involved here in too much detail to cover.
but lets just say unqualified people are in charged of the money