Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter

[Plane]

I don't think, plane, that you got my point.   It wasn't that the Republicans invented slime.

The point of my post was not that politicians slime one another.  That's a given.  The point of the post was that a line had been crossed.  Given the general reverence accorded to the military in U.S. society, an attack on a military man's martial valour is a more serious thing than an attack on a man's marital fidelity.

In fact plenty of politicians have been accused of screwing around, stealing money, taking bribes, etc. 

 Attacking the medals of a veteran wounded in the service of his country, I contended, was a new low, at least in recent (20th Century to present) American history.

Oh , well I see your point then. Such an accusation would not be accepted from me or you  , the problem Kerry had was that the accusation came from the Swift Boat Veterans that were his comrades .

Generals and War heroes have run for President before , did you think they had no opposition?
Saying nasty things about a candidates children has even been done before , but it is not very likely to be productive , Common people commonly have a sense of common decency and an attack on a helpless child like this is not going to go over well.

Grover Cleveland got elected anyway even though he admitted to being the father of an illegitimate child he simply reveled all the pertant details himself and this defused the situation a lot.

Accusing the Governor of Alaska of covering for a daughters illegitimate pregnancy seems grossly inappropriate and mean , just what I would wish for them to seem like.

[Plane]

I don't think, plane, that you got my point.   It wasn't that the Republicans invented slime.

The point of my post was not that politicians slime one another.  That's a given.  The point of the post was that a line had been crossed.  Given the general reverence accorded to the military in U.S. society, an attack on a military man's martial valour is a more serious thing than an attack on a man's marital fidelity.

In fact plenty of politicians have been accused of screwing around, stealing money, taking bribes, etc. 

 Attacking the medals of a veteran wounded in the service of his country, I contended, was a new low, at least in recent (20th Century to present) American history.

Please remember that being true clears an accusation of being liabel.

Kerry was caught exaggerateing his role in Cambodia and so much so that there was no mistake in that he was being caught in a lie , his being caught in a few lies cast an unpleasant light on all of his statements .

Some of the Swift Boat statements did not turn out to be true , and some turned out to be unverifiable , but the Swift Boat veterans for truth were not running for President , that some of their accusations were true was enough , just as some of John Kerrys statements being false were enough ,because the standard was very diffrent for an accuser than for a Presidential canadate.


If Kerry had told the truth straight up , this might have included some heroic storys and this would have been fine , he would have been immune to the accusers .

[Kramer]

I don't think, plane, that you got my point.   It wasn't that the Republicans invented slime.

The point of my post was not that politicians slime one another.  That's a given.  The point of the post was that a line had been crossed.  Given the general reverence accorded to the military in U.S. society, an attack on a military man's martial valour is a more serious thing than an attack on a man's marital fidelity.

In fact plenty of politicians have been accused of screwing around, stealing money, taking bribes, etc. 

 Attacking the medals of a veteran wounded in the service of his country, I contended, was a new low, at least in recent (20th Century to present) American history.

Please remember that being true clears an accusation of being liabel.

Kerry was caught exaggerateing his role in Cambodia and so much so that there was no mistake in that he was being caught in a lie , his being caught in a few lies cast an unpleasant light on all of his statements .

Some of the Swift Boat statements did not turn out to be true , and some turned out to be unverifiable , but the Swift Boat veterans for truth were not running for President , that some of their accusations were true was enough , just as some of John Kerrys statements being false were enough ,because the standard was very diffrent for an accuser than for a Presidential canadate.


If Kerry had told the truth straight up , this might have included some heroic storys and this would have been fine , he would have been immune to the accusers .

That pretty much sums it up --- end of discussion