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Re: Wait until this hits the fan.
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2008, 02:52:45 AM »
Well, I am 100% against the rape of anyone. It is a reprehensible act.

I don't think that anyone should be forced to bear a child of rape or incest. Apparently Palin does, or perhaps she has not given it any serious thought. If the latter is true, she should do so.


I don't think States' Rights means the same thing anymore, either.
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2008, 02:56:12 AM »
<<Or has her success in the profession of politics opened new resorces for the children and prospered the family?>>

Now politics is a profession in which one enriches oneself and one's family?  It was Sarah's get-rich-quick plan?

The best "resource" that a Down syndrome child has is its mother.  The child needs an advocate, someone who can study the particular unique diagnosis of this one child and decide which therapy, which treatment is best for the child.  This would involve selecting which of several competing diagnoses and assessments is likely to be the correct one, finding the best therapies and modalities that fit the diagnosis one has provisionally selected as being the one that fits, selecting the people to administer the treatment, monitoring them, revising the original diagnoses and prescriptive treatment in the light of the results to date, giving the child the love and warmth it needs, advocating for the child in its interaction with the public school or private school system . . .

Based on the experience of our friend, I could write a fucking book.  Being the parent of a Down syndrome child is really a full-time job.  Our friend is a self-employed professional who schedules her work around her family obligations and refused to make an initial assessment and dump the kid where directed, checking in from time to time.  You can NOT be a good parent to a Down syndrome child and the President of the United States of America at the same time.   Even if you had no other family problems, and I can see that with Levi and Bristol and their baby, this woman is going to have her hands full.  I see this very clearly and I would suspect that every parent of a Down syndrome baby also sees this very clearly.  The challenge is to educate the general public in this basic assessment.

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Re: Wait until this hits the fan.
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2008, 03:24:37 AM »
Your assessment certainly sets back the feminist movement by decades.

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Re: Wait until this hits the fan.
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2008, 03:26:24 AM »
<<Or has her success in the profession of politics opened new resorces for the children and prospered the family?>>

The best "resource" that a Down syndrome child has is its mother. 

Let's finish that sentence......and FATHER.  As long as one is at home, the child is being cared for properly by one of its parents.


The child needs an advocate, someone who can study the particular unique diagnosis of this one child and decide which therapy, which treatment is best for the child.

And in Tee's world, the Father is incapable of such, nor able to communciate with the wife/mother.     ::)   Here's a news flash Tee.  I could write just as large a book.  I worked with physically & Mentally disabled children, teenagers and adults.  I worked with the parents.  I learned much from the parents, including the efforts required upon them.  Yes, it's more work than your typical child.  NO, it does not mandate that ONLY the mother stay home, as if she's the ONLY person who's up for the job.  This twisted perversion of women's rights & the feminist movement you now hold, is simply the latest rationalization effort to bash Palin.  Pure & simple.  If this were a Dem candidate, running for high office, and the GOP were throwing these egregious accusations at her, you'd be all over them for daring to make decisions for someone else's child, how dare they think they know better than the parents.  You're that transparent



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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2008, 12:24:21 PM »
 I agree that the father could theoretically serve as the primary caregiving parent while Sarah is keeping the nation safe.  He just doesn't look like he's going to relish the job.   Hopefully, the voters won't force him to make that choice.

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Re: Wait until this hits the fan.
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2008, 12:38:56 PM »
I agree that the father could theoretically serve as the primary caregiving parent while Sarah is keeping the nation safe.  He just doesn't look like he's going to relish the job.   Hopefully, the voters won't force him to make that choice.

He's done it before.
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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2008, 02:43:12 PM »
 I agree that the father could theoretically serve as the primary caregiving parent while Sarah is keeping the nation safe.  He just doesn't look like he's going to relish the job.   Hopefully, the voters won't force him to make that choice.

He's done it before.

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I would imagine that someone who likes to hunt and fish and barrel around offroad in his pickup would be really pissed at having to live in DC, surrounded by SS men with nary a salmon, Moose or ptarmigan in sight.


Tastes like Chicken?
Speaking of ptarmigan, there is the story of how a town in Alaska had an abundance of tasty ptarmigans, and wished to name their town after them, but no one was sure of how to spell ptarmigan. So they named it Chicken instead.

John McPhee's book, Coming into the Country is a great read about Alaska. When I saw Northern Exposure for the first time, I just knew that the guy who thought up that series had read it.

Some day, I will visit AK, but I am still rather intrigued by Paraguay. It's loads cheaper. I imagine that a hotel room with cable and all, even in Chicken would cost a lot more than 90,000 Guaranies (or US$22.50). Room and board at Peter's was only a paltry G100,000. ($25). Its is nice to live somewhere where you can be a millionaire for only $250.

Paraguay is at least as quirky as Alaska, and the animals are a lot weirder.
 
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Re: Wait until this hits the fan.
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2008, 03:07:07 PM »
I would imagine that someone who likes to hunt and fish and barrel around offroad in his pickup would be really pissed at having to live in DC, surrounded by SS men with nary a salmon, Moose or ptarmigan in sight.

The Naval Observatory, next to Rock Creek Park, is about the least urban part of DC (seems pretty rural, actually). Camp David is really rural, and there is plenty of hunting and fishing in the area (ran across Secret Service several times while hunting / camping in those woods).
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Re: Wait until this hits the fan.
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2008, 08:57:21 PM »
The Naval Observatory, next to Rock Creek Park, is about the least urban part of DC (seems pretty rural, actually). Camp David is really rural, and there is plenty of hunting and fishing in the area (ran across Secret Service several times while hunting / camping in those woods).

I don't think that Maine is all that far from DC either.