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Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Vote, Don't Debate
« on: March 18, 2010, 05:21:02 PM »
Democratic leaders are staunchly defending their possible use of a parliamentary maneuver to avoid a traditional vote on health care.

Are they also getting ready to abandon a promise that lawmakers would have at least 72 hours to read and evaluate the language of the health care bill?

House Democrats are moving ahead with a package of budget reconciliation changes to the Senate bill that would let members enact the Senate bill by reference. A Democratic staffer tells me House leaders tentatively plan to ignore or blur the 72-hour rule when the long-delayed final analysis is delivered to them sometime this afternoon.

The Rules Committee will meet on Saturday to set the rules for debate. Following the letter of the 72-hour rule would mean no vote before late Sunday, but Democrats have allowed themselves an out. "The Democratic leadership has declared 'martial law,'" Poltico.com reports, "allowing leaders to bring legislation straight to the floor on the same legislative day." That could mean a vote as early as Saturday, with a floor debate of just four hours. The public and members of Congress would have only 48 hours or even less to examine the bill.

Democrats are in a rush for two reasons.
One, the longer they wait, the iffier their chances of assembling a majority of 216 House members.
Two, they're also in a hurry because the Senate needs a minimum of a week of floor debate to pass the expected reconciliation bill full of legislative "fixes."

With Congress set to begin its two-week Easter recess on March 26, Democratic leaders don't want members leaving town before the issue is settled, fearing a pummeling by angry constituents back home that will weaken their resolve.

Cutting short the period for legislators and the public to evaluate the bill would raise hackles. But Democratic leaders are prepared to take the hits. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer signaled as much last Friday on the House floor in an exchange with GOP Whip Eric Cantor. "We will certainly give as much notice as possible, but I am not going to say that 72 hours is going to be the litmus test, per se, because that which we have voted on already in the House and the Senate have given Members months of notice and the American public months of notice on the substance of the propositions that are pending before us," Mr. Hoyer said.

To longtime Congressional observers, Mr. Hoyer was clearly saying he is not going to be bound by the 72-hour rule if he thinks following it will break the momentum to jam the bill through.

Yesterday, President Obama told Bret Baier of Fox News: "I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what the procedural rules are in the House or Senate." But both members of Congress and the American people have been given repeated assurances they would have at least 72 hours to look at the final language and numbers.

Mr. Obama may not spend much time fretting about whether that promise is kept, but voters may think otherwise.


Yea, screw the constitution and promises.  Not when we have a bill to pass that 3/4 of the country doesn't want

"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Vote, Don't Debate
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2010, 09:18:28 PM »
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The award is named for President Kennedy’s 1957 Pulitzer prize-winning book, Profiles in Courage, which recounts the stories of eight U.S. Senators who risked their careers by taking principled stands for unpopular positions.

The Profile in Courage Award seeks to make Americans aware of the conscientious and courageous acts of their public servants, and to encourage elected officials to choose principles over partisanship – to do what is right, rather than what is expedient.

The award is presented annually to a public official or officials at the federal, state or local level whose actions best demonstrate the qualities of politically courageous leadership in the spirit of Profiles in Courage.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Education+and+Public+Programs/Profile+in+Courage+Award/


If you give the people what they need , in spite of what they want , you earn this reward.

Instead of re-election, which you have not earned.