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Re: NY Shoots itself in the Foot yet again
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2010, 11:16:21 AM »
Ahhh, it's no longer Bush's fault alll those Dems didn't pay their taxes (read their "fair share).  Now its their financial advisers.  Well, that clears it all up now, don't it      ;)
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Re: NY Shoots itself in the Foot yet again
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2010, 11:23:33 AM »
until recently money deposited in some countries banks are not reported in the U.S.
swiss banks use numbers not name for thier accounts. this used to mean no taxes can be paid for this money since the income is unknown. alot of major companies has thier office in the islands to take advantage of this tax loophole.


caymen islands is a common name refered in novels for hidding money.

I thought no-load funds are always prefered than load funds. I`ve never met an advisor who did that.

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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2010, 11:39:50 AM »
There are hundreds of investment banks in the Caymans, and flights from Miami several times per day. One business involves flying back up to Cuba, and another involves all the investment banks. Of course, it is a pleasant and laid-back place with little crime. Most Caymanians are light-skinned, friendly Black people or perhaps dark-skinned friendly White people. Everyone speaks English, though there is a local patois similar to Jamaican patois that all the locals use. Banking is a big deal, and of course, one needs a good excuse for a trip should the IRS ask, so there are a lot of nice vacation beach hotels there.

Officially, there are two types of financial advisers. One type accepts customers and charges a set fee for managing a portfolio, typically around 4%, but some have a whole bunch of other fees: initial deposit fee, withdrawal fee, account closing fee, inactivity fee.

The other type charges nothing to the investor directly, and gets commissions from the brokerages and load fund families. If you give the adviser $1000, then he invests $950 and gets a $50 commission from the fund manager as a 5% commission: 5% is more or less an average, but some companies charge up to 8% load up front. Some companies charge a load when you withdraw the money as well, and there are often other fees charged by the companies.

What is bad about this is that many of the first sort of adviser will put your money in a load fund, tell you that the load will pay for itself by better performance (as a rule, it won't) tell you that "you get what you pay for", and therefore rake in fees from both the investor as well as the investment company.

All the fees are summarized in the prospectus in language that many people cannot understand, so calling the company before investing is definitely mandatory to not getting ripped off if you see something that looks fishy.
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Re: NY Shoots itself in the Foot yet again
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2010, 12:22:20 PM »
There are hundreds of investment banks in the Caymans, and flights from Miami several times per day. One business involves flying back up to Cuba, and another involves all the investment banks. Of course, it is a pleasant and laid-back place with little crime. Most Caymanians are light-skinned, friendly Black people or perhaps dark-skinned friendly White people. Everyone speaks English, though there is a local patois similar to Jamaican patois that all the locals use. Banking is a big deal, and of course, one needs a good excuse for a trip should the IRS ask, so there are a lot of nice vacation beach hotels there.

Officially, there are two types of financial advisers. One type accepts customers and charges a set fee for managing a portfolio, typically around 4%, but some have a whole bunch of other fees: initial deposit fee, withdrawal fee, account closing fee, inactivity fee.

The other type charges nothing to the investor directly, and gets commissions from the brokerages and load fund families. If you give the adviser $1000, then he invests $950 and gets a $50 commission from the fund manager as a 5% commission: 5% is more or less an average, but some companies charge up to 8% load up front. Some companies charge a load when you withdraw the money as well, and there are often other fees charged by the companies.

What is bad about this is that many of the first sort of adviser will put your money in a load fund, tell you that the load will pay for itself by better performance (as a rule, it won't) tell you that "you get what you pay for", and therefore rake in fees from both the investor as well as the investment company.

All the fees are summarized in the prospectus in language that many people cannot understand, so calling the company before investing is definitely mandatory to not getting ripped off if you see something that looks fishy.


You, being a liberal, giving us a lesson on tax cheating kinda proves my point about liberals not paying their fair share of taxes or just plain cheating on them.

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Re: NY Shoots itself in the Foot yet again
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2010, 01:30:37 PM »
uhm
I`m the one who gave the info on tax cheating xo only posted advise on load and no-load funds.


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Re: NY Shoots itself in the Foot yet again
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2010, 02:28:40 PM »
There is NO advice on tax cheating here whatever. Kimba only mentioned that some people attempt to cheat on their taxes by opening an account in a Cayman Island bank, because he read about it in a novel or two. That is hardly advice.

You could get more by googling Cayman Islands Bank.

You are a drooling moron, really you are.
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