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In these times
« on: August 19, 2010, 11:08:30 PM »
"We live in a time when society and the media and politics is searching for a victory rather than seeking truth," Harrison said. "All sides want to prove the other side wrong. Not just wrong, but bad."

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Re: In these times
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 01:23:10 PM »
<<"All sides want to prove the other side wrong. Not just wrong, but bad.">>

Now that's really ironic, because in U.S. politics today, there IS no "other side."

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 01:56:13 PM »
<<"All sides want to prove the other side wrong. Not just wrong, but bad.">>

Now that's really ironic, because in U.S. politics today, there IS no "other side."

That's a really dumb response.

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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2010, 02:15:39 PM »
Really?  Obama basically sells out to the insurance industry on the public option and then squabbles with the GOP over trivial details.  "Ends" Bush's war in Iraq by re-labeling the garrison force and doubling down on the number of mercenaries to be left in place.  Ratchets up the Afghan war.  Continues to give the Israelis carte blanche for anything they do.

My response was anything but dumb.  What's dumb is to take the Tweedle Dee/Tweedle Dum charade playing out as some kind of "two-party" system, which voters can change every four years in "elections" - - now THAT'S what I'd call "dumb."

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2010, 02:43:24 PM »
Really?  Obama Continues to give the Israelis carte blanche for anything they do.

Excuse me??  What are you smoking, this go around?  They've literally put their foot down, not in just demanding that settlements be ceased, and not likely to support any military intervention, but the disrepect alone given their PM, compared to practically ever other dignitary outside of England's was in full regalia. 

He got his Obamacare the only way he could.  Anything more wouldn't have gotten the necessary amount of Democrats to push it down the country's throat.  He's taken over major sectors of the Private industry, and placing non-elected "Czars" to "watch over" nearly every component of U.S. industry

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The fact you couldn't answer a direct question as to what you REALLY want to see from Obama, tells far more about your support for the man & his ideolgy (Afghanistan not withstanding), than your so-called 2 party is really 1 party garbage

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Re: In these times
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 02:45:01 PM »
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Really?

Really dumb.

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Obama basically sells out to the insurance industry on the public option and then squabbles with the GOP over trivial details.

Obama delegated healthcare to Pelosi and Reid. And then accepted what they could deliver. And they delivered whatever they thought would still allow them to remain in power and control the spoil system.






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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2010, 12:30:22 AM »
<<Obama delegated healthcare to Pelosi and Reid. And then accepted what they could deliver. And they delivered whatever they thought would still allow them to remain in power and control the spoil system. >>

Bullshit.  The three of them traded off responsibility between themselves in a shell game and at the end of the day they came up with a "health-care plan" that froze out the public option completely, which was all that the insurance industry was really concerned with.  The "reform" they delivered was about what the GOP would have offered, had they offered anything, and not far from the status quo prevailing had the GOP not offered anything.   The Dems protected the vested interests of the insurance industry, more or less as the GOP would have.

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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 12:51:35 AM »
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The Dems protected the vested interests of the insurance industry, more or less as the GOP would have.

If that notion, helps you sleep at night, go for it.

But that really has little to do with the quote at hand.

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Re: In these times
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2010, 01:14:12 AM »
<<"All sides want to prove the other side wrong. Not just wrong, but bad.">>

Now that's really ironic, because in U.S. politics today, there IS no "other side."

That's a really dumb response.


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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2010, 01:25:41 AM »
Really?  Obama basically sells out to the insurance industry on the public option and then squabbles with the GOP over trivial details.  "Ends" Bush's war in Iraq by re-labeling the garrison force and doubling down on the number of mercenaries to be left in place.  Ratchets up the Afghan war.  Continues to give the Israelis carte blanche for anything they do.

My response was anything but dumb.  What's dumb is to take the Tweedle Dee/Tweedle Dum charade playing out as some kind of "two-party" system, which voters can change every four years in "elections" - - now THAT'S what I'd call "dumb."
Yes , it is dumb.

The Unitttted States are so united that only trivialitys seaprate the largest groups of us , why do you think of that as a bad thing?

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Re: In these times
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2010, 09:11:49 AM »
My response was anything but dumb.  What's dumb is to take the Tweedle Dee/Tweedle Dum charade playing out as some kind of "two-party" system, which voters can change every four years in "elections" - - now THAT'S what I'd call "dumb."

We all know you much prefer the one-party system. 

Incidentally, the Democrats and Republicans are not - as you put it - Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum.  They are (to steal the phrase from Louie DePalma in  "Taxi")  "Tweedle-Dumb and Tweedle-Dumber."
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