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China has changed
« on: December 10, 2006, 10:34:17 PM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/08/AR2006120801480.html?nav=hcmodule


Public Shaming of Prostitutes Misfires in China
Traditional Discipline Draws Angry Outcry

By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, December 9, 2006; Page A10

BEIJING, Dec. 8 -- To local officials combating Shenzhen's reputation as a den of vice, it seemed like a good idea, the perfect way to dissuade provincial girls from turning to prostitution in the big city and frighten away the men who patronize their brothels.

So after raiding the karaoke bars, saunas and barbershops where prostitutes often ply their trade, police officers in the southern Chinese boomtown paraded about 100 women and their alleged johns in the street, using loudspeakers to read out their names and the misdeeds they were accused of committing. News photographers snapped away while thousands of residents lined up to take in the show.
   
The spectacle, which took place Nov. 29 in the Shenzhen district of Futian, was in many ways unremarkable for a nation in which wrongdoers have long been subject to public humiliation. In particular, it recalled the Great Cultural Revolution of the 1960s and '70s, when Chinese accused of being intellectuals or reactionaries were routinely paraded in front of jeering crowds that found entertainment in ridiculing them, insulting them and sometimes beating them.

But times have changed, the Futian Public Security Bureau discovered. Instead of being praised for cracking down on vice, the Futian police came under a hail of criticism for violating the right to privacy of those who were paraded about in public.

The swift outcry, in newspaper interviews and on the Internet, provided a dramatic illustration of the distance this vast country has traveled since the Cultural Revolution, when many people embraced such tactics and even those who opposed them were afraid to speak up for fear of retribution.
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"These people were just alleged criminals," Yao complained. "It was not yet determined that they had violated the law. The police publicly humiliated them, which violates the legal process. This brutal form of punishment has long been abandoned by our society with the development of civilization and a legal system."

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"Even while carrying out the law, police should well respect human rights," one commentator said. "Is there any article in Chinese law saying that police can parade people in front of the public? If there isn't, then who empowered you to do that?"

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Re: China has changed
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2006, 11:42:12 PM »
England became a country of Free men in a gradual fashion.


I hope that China's evolution can proceed positively.

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Re: China has changed
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 12:34:50 AM »
Just a thought... maybe our country can stop going backward, using medieval practices like torture.  Oh, and bring back habeas corpus, that's been popular since the Magna Carta. 
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Re: China has changed
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 12:44:20 AM »
So your article wasn't about china after all.

BTW is there much torture in Ohio?

How is habeas corpus doing?


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Re: China has changed
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2006, 08:34:51 PM »
My article was about China.  I was impressed.  ANd then it struck me, how they were not shamed by the traditional practices---it didn't work---and said that those practices were humiliating and unlawful.  And we seem to be regressing in the human rights area.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 02:09:53 AM »
ALBANY, Ga. - A young woman sentenced to walk a downtown sidewalk wearing a sandwich board announcing her crime as a condition of her probation for burglary said the experience was humbling and humiliating, but definitely better than serving jail time.



http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/16186762.htm

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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2006, 01:14:04 PM »
Wow.
At least she was given a trial first, unlike the Chinese people they tried to shame.
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