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What exactly is a "political promise"?
« on: December 14, 2010, 02:18:29 PM »
Obama's Lies About His Broken Promises

Last week, President Barack Obama was backpedaling like a circus unicycle rider, after his compromise on extending Bush-era tax cuts for the country's top 2 percent of income earners. Because he had pledged repeatedly during his presidential campaign to raise those earners' taxes, he instantly was slammed by his political base. Even pro-Obama comedic commentators Jon Stewart and Bill Maher were left humor-speechless.

Feeling defensive and maybe even a bit insecure, Obama fired back in anger against people across the political spectrum. Wielding his verbal sword, the president poked and prodded: "Take a tally. Look at what I promised during the campaign. There's not a single thing that I've said that I would do that I have not either done or tried to do. And if I haven't gotten it done yet, I'm still trying to do it."

"Not a single thing"?

Well, as a fighting champion who takes taunting seriously, I thought I'd take the president up on his challenge for us to take a tally.

What I discovered is that of the more than 500 promises Obama made during his candidacy, even according to the pro-Obama website PolitiFact's "Obameter," his scorecard reads:
123 promises kept,
39 compromised,
24 broken,
82 stalled,
232 in the works and three not yet rated.

What that coddled language boils down to is this: Even according to those on the political left, Obama has fulfilled 123 promises and left 380 pledges dangling farther than participles.

What PolitiFact overlooks is that what really matters isn't the count of broken promises; it's the caliber of those broken promises. If I fail to fulfill a promise to take my dog for a walk, that's one thing. But it's quite a different deal if I fail to take my wife on a promised date. The difference is a night in the doghouse!

Let me spare you a long list of substantial pledges and promises. Here's a short list, a few golden nuggets, or, should I say, fool's gold flakes. I'll set to the side presidential promises of transparency, C-SPAN coverage of health care debates and even Guantanamo Bay's closing. Instead, I'll go straight for the promise jugular. And so that no one thinks I'm overreaching my punch, here are the vows right out of the president's mouth:

--"We've got a philosophical difference, which we've debated repeatedly, and that is that Sen. (Hillary) Clinton believes the only way to achieve universal health care is to force everybody to purchase it." (Spoken during the Democratic presidential debate on Feb. 21, 2008.)

--"We need tougher border security and a renewed focus on busting up gangs and traffickers crossing our border. ... That begins at home, with comprehensive immigration reform. That means securing our border and passing tough employer enforcement laws." (Spoken in Miami on May 23, 2008.)

--"Based on the conversations we've had internally, as well as external reports, we believe that you can get one to two brigades out a month. At that pace, the forces would be out in approximately 16 months from the time that we began. That would be the time frame that I would be setting up." (Spoken to The New York Times on Oct. 31, 2007, about the withdrawal from Iraq.)

--"We will launch a sweeping effort to root out waste, inefficiency and unnecessary spending in our government, and every American will be able to see how and where we spend taxpayer dollars by going to a new website called Recovery.gov." (Spoken in a speech on Jan. 28, 2009.)

--"There is no doubt that we've been living beyond our means and we're going to have to make some adjustments. Now, what I've done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut." (Spoken during the presidential debate on Oct. 15, 2008.)

--"We are going to ban all earmarks." (Spoken at a news conference on Jan. 6, 2009.)

--"Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase -- not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." (Spoken at a town hall meeting on Sept. 12, 2008.)

--And oh, yes, then there's that substantial promise repeated dozens of times in one way, shape or form on the campaign trail: "It's true that I want to roll back the Bush tax cuts on the wealthiest Americans." (Spoken in Chester, Pa., on Oct. 28, 2008.)

Now, what were those words the president used last week? "Not a single thing"?

I know some will accuse me of kicking the president while he's down. But he's actually roundhouse kicked himself (again), by not only lying about his broken promises but also dissing everyone inside and outside his own political camp.

Up against the political wall last week, Obama compared Republicans to hostage takers willing to harm Americans. Then he compared Democrats to unyielding stalemate causers who hold up political and American progress.

Seems to me the only politician President Obama hasn't demeaned is himself.

Is that because Obama is so far ahead of the American pack in wisdom or because he finally is walking alone with no one following? Have his arrogance, defiance, charismatic charade and inability to lead in conflict (proved last week by his need of former President Bill Clinton's presence) finally caught up with him, isolating him from even his most avid followers?

Maybe it's a good time this Christmas season for President Obama to contemplate a bit of wisdom from the Good Book: Pride comes before the fall.


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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2010, 06:52:59 PM »
--"We are going to ban all earmarks." (Spoken at a news conference on Jan. 6, 2009.)

Senate Dems unveil $1.1T spending bill
By Alexander Bolton - 12/14/10
 
Senate Democrats have filed a $1.1 trillion omnibus spending bill that would fund the government through fiscal year 2011, according to Senate GOP sources.
 
The 1,924-page bill includes funding to implement the sweeping healthcare reform bill Congress passed earlier this year as well as additional funds for Internal Revenue Service agents, according to a senior GOP aide familiar with the legislation.
 
The package drew a swift rebuke from Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), chairman of the Senate Republican Policy Committee.
 
"The attempt by Democrat leadership to rush through a nearly 2,000-page spending bill in the final days of the lame-duck session ignores the clear will expressed by the voters this past election," Thune said in a statement. "This bill is loaded up with pork projects and should not get a vote. Congress should listen to the American people and stop this reckless spending.?
 
Thune has called for a short-term funding measure free of earmarks to keep the government operating beyond Dec. 18, when the current continuing resolution expires.
 
Despite strong opposition from Thune and Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), several Senate Republicans are considering voting for the bill.
 
?That?s my intention,? said retiring Sen. Bob Bennett (R-Utah) when asked if he would support the package.
 
Bennett said earmarks in the bill might give some of his GOP colleagues reason to hesitate but wouldn?t affect his vote.
 
?It will be tough for some, but not for me,? he said.

GOP Sens. Kit Bond (Mo.), George Voinovich (Ohio) and Susan Collins (Maine) also told The Hill on Tuesday they would consider voting for the omnibus but want to review it before making a final decision.
 
?I hope to be able to vote for one,? Bond said of the omnibus. ?We?ve got to look what?s in it.
 
?I?m anxious to see it,? he added.

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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2010, 07:33:17 PM »
--"We are going to ban all earmarks." (Spoken at a news conference on Jan. 6, 2009.)

Earmarkers feast on pork one last time before diet

The spending barons on Capitol Hill, long used to muscling past opponents of bills larded with pet projects, are seeking one last victory before tea party-backed GOP insurgents storm Congress intent on ending the good old days of pork-barrel politics.

You might call it the last running of the old bulls in Congress.

In the waning days of the lame duck congressional session, Democrats controlling the Senate _ in collaboration with a handful of old school Republicans _ are pushing to wrap more than $1.2 trillion worth of unfinished budget work into a single "omnibus" appropriations bill.

Their 1,900-plus-page bill comes to the floor this week stuffed with provisions sought by lawmakers. It contains thousands of pet projects, known as earmarks, pushed by Democratic and GOP senators alike _ despite a pledge by Republicans to give up such projects next year.

"That omnibus bill will be loaded down with earmarks and pork barrel spending, which is a direct _ a direct _ betrayal of the majority of voters on Nov. 2 who said 'Stop the earmarking, stop the spending, stop the pork barrel projects,'" protested Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

The catchall bill is designed to bankroll the operations of every Cabinet agency for the budget year that started Oct. 1, as well as $158 billion to pay for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

It also challenges President Barack Obama. One administration-opposed provision would block the Pentagon from transferring Guantanamo Bay prisoners to the United States. Another would provide $450 million for a program to develop a second engine for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter despite a veto threat by the administration, which says it's a waste of money.

The architect of the measure, Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, has been working with senior Republicans on the panel _ Thad Cochran of Mississippi, Robert Bennett of Utah and Christopher Bond of Missouri _ to line up the 60 votes needed to repel a filibuster promised by GOP Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina and other conservatives.

"We remain cautiously optimistic," said Inouye spokesman Rob Blumenthal.

Inouye's measure would replace a slightly less expensive bill that the House passed last week. The House bill doesn't contain earmarks like road and agricultural research projects, water treatment plants and grants for local anti-drug campaigns.

House Democrats, however, would gladly accept the fatter Senate version. Its many earmarks include $80 million in grants to states and Indian tribes to preserve Pacific salmon and $13 million in clean water grants for rural and Alaska native villages.

There's also $4 million sought by Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell for the Kentucky National Guard's marijuana eradication efforts and $8 million sought by GOP Sen. John Thune of South Dakota to help maintain the B-1 bomber fleet in his state. Though their states benefit, both Republicans oppose the bill.

The year-end logjam continues a long tradition in which a dysfunctional Congress is unable to do its most basic job of providing money to run the government on time.

Rather than debating a dozen separate appropriations bills, the omnibus spending measure rolls all the spending bills into a single piece of legislation that is likely to be brought to the floor in a way that keeps opponents from trimming it down.

Democrats hope to pass the measure by a midnight deadline Saturday. That would give them the latest _ and perhaps last _ victory over conservatives who contend the annual appropriations bills spend too much money and contain too many pork-barrel projects.

Incoming House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, is a long-standing opponent of doling out federal dollars for sewer projects, community development grants and the like based on special requests from lawmakers.

Boehner will become the single most powerful member of Congress next year, and he has laid down the law, promising to cut as much as $100 billion from 2011 agency budgets and ban earmarks. He signed a letter last week asking Obama to veto the omnibus bill because of its earmarks.

For now, though, Boehner still is outnumbered by Democrats.

And across the Capitol, Democrats control the Senate with 58 votes. But their numbers will shrink to 53 in January, and many of the 13 incoming Senate Republicans are replacing eager earmarkers like Bond and Bennett, who follow the rich Appropriations Committee tradition of banding together, regardless of party, to beat back critics of their spending.

McConnell said Tuesday he was actively working to defeat the giant spending bill.

And GOP conservatives are irate over provisions that would begin to pay for Obama's overhauls of the U.S. health care system and financial services regulations.


Looks like they haven't learned their lesson....yet
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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 12:41:23 PM »
A political promise is a promise to TRY to get something done. Every American, candidates included, should know that a president does not rule by some sort of dictatorial mandate in most cases.

A president can promise to appoint a particular cabinet appointee or Supreme Court justice, but Congress must approve. He could promise to hire a specific press secretary or adviser without any problems at all, other than complaints from the press and perhaps some complaining citizens.
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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 05:03:47 PM »
A President can also veto a bill that comes from congress, that fails to adhere to his political promise, right?
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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 06:14:34 PM »
A President can also veto a bill that comes from congress, that fails to adhere to his political promise, right?

That would depend on how he wants to play the game.


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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2010, 06:21:24 PM »
Actually, it depends on if he wants to keep his political promise.  There's no reason, what-so-ever, the President couldn't be offered 1 bill on just the tax rate continuations, and another on all the ear marks
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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2010, 06:52:16 PM »
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Actually, it depends on if he wants to keep his political promise. 

And if he doesn't care?

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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2010, 07:00:57 PM »
Then chalk it up to Broken Promise #25
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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2010, 07:05:28 PM »
Well that happens.

How did Bush do with his SS reform?



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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 07:51:27 PM »
You'll have to provide the quote and context that has him promising to overhaul it via reform, vs mererly rhetorical references to how it needs fixed

But don't fret, I'm sure there are some legit promises Bush didn't get to.
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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2010, 08:00:33 PM »

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You'll have to provide the quote and context that has him promising to overhaul it via reform, vs mererly rhetorical references to how it needs fixed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_debate_%28United_States%29#George_W._Bush.27s_privatization_proposal

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Re: What exactly is a "political promise"?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2010, 08:15:21 PM »
Sounds like he kept his promise in trying to address the issue.  Nice though to be able to drop it off at the feet of commission
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