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Chaos/Flip Flop from Obama White House on Egypt Policy!
« on: February 06, 2011, 12:06:21 PM »
Obama's Egyptian policy criticized in US as missing its mark

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report February 6, 2011, 2:39 PM (GMT+02:00)


US Envoy Frank Wisner

Many Western and Middle East observers were astonished to hear US President Barak Obama's
special envoy Frank Wisner insisting that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak stay after all to steer
changes after twelve days of Washington-backed protests failed to unseat him.

He spoke Saturday, Feb. 5, by video to the Munich Security Conference, at which Secretary of
State Hillary Clinton took the opposite view. Washington sources report that just as divisions
between the anti- and pro-Mubarak camps deepen in Cairo, so too is criticism mounting
in Washington over the US president's tactics on the turbulence in Egypt.

Whereas Obama and Clinton have been pushing hard for the Egyptian president to quit and the
transition of power begin without him, Wisner, a former ambassador to Egypt, asserted:
"Mubarak had give 60 years of his life to the service of his country, this is an ideal moment
for him to show the way forward."

He stressed: "We need to get a national consensus around the pre-conditions for the next
step forward. The president must stay in office to steer those changes." Obama's special
envoy insisted: "Mr. Mubarak's role remains critical in the days ahead,"

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley responded:  "We have great respect for Frank Wisner
? but his views are his own and not coordinated with the US government.

Wisner was sent by President Obama to Cairo last Monday, Jan. 31, at a climactic moment of the
wave of protests against Mubarak, to urge the embattled Egyptian president to make haste and
resign. This Mubarak has declined to do to this day, consenting only to leave after his current
term is up in September.

In Munich, German Chancellor Angela Merkel offered a wry comment on Wisner's words:
"One thing is clear. No transition is taking place in Egypt," she said, implying that Obama's
policy of foisting change on the regime in Cairo was not working.

Some of the conference participants had in fact received the impression that the harder
Washington pushed for the Egyptian president to leave, the more stubbornly he clung to
office. His last word to was that his departure now would plunge Egypt into chaos.

Vice President Omar Suleiman, shortly after he was sworn into office by Mubarak, went
on state TV Thursday, Feb. 3, with strong criticism of "foreign elements" who, he said,
when they fail to make us obey their orders, "incite the people against us."

Egypt would not permit even friendly powers to interfere in its domestic affairs, he said
? a view shared by much of the people.

Some sources in Washington are of the opinion that the continuing standoff in Egypt
and its potential for exploding into civil strife, or sliding into a long and bloody war of
attrition between the opponents of Mubarak's regime and its supporters, is partly the
fault of the system of pressures the White House has being applying for a quick resolution.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif, appeared to agree
on this but in an interview Saturday she blamed US intelligence agencies for failing to
give the policymakers "timely intelligence analysis."  In the senator's view, ?The president,
the secretary of state and the Congress are making policy decisions on Egypt" for which
they lack the appropriate intelligence tools.


Some Washington sources suggested that Wisner's words were a pointer to a White House flip flop
in its policy on Egypt in view of the clear impression that it had missed its mark and the rising criticism
in Washington.

Mubarak, who remains in the saddle, has begun instituting what Wisner called "the fragile glimmerings"
of change in Egypt. Sunday, Feb. 5, after the Muslim Brotherhood changed its mind and joined the
dialogue on change to which the regime had invited opposition parties, agreement was achieved to
form a constitutional reform panel with opposition participation.
   
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Re: Chaos/Flip Flop from Obama White House on Egypt Policy!
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 12:35:20 PM »
Our support might be moot .

When this runs down who will have graditude to the US government ?

We might be more helpfull later , but supporting both sides of the fight during this crisis will make us moot.

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Re: Chaos/Flip Flop from Obama White House on Egypt Policy!
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 01:04:16 PM »
The interests of the Egyptian people are not always the same as the interests of the US, or Israel or even the American people.

Wisner is right in that if Mubarak is left to gradually fade from power as he is replaced, there is less chance of any radicals having as much influence. But at the same time, this is not in the interests of the Egyptians who want a democracy that reflects their views.

It seems to me that the Administration is doing a great job so far. There can be no guarantees that the Egyptians will elect someone who will continue to suck up to Israel's desire to make a prison of Gaza.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Chaos/Flip Flop from Obama White House on Egypt Policy!
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 03:53:06 PM »
The interests of the Egyptian people are not always the same as the interests of the US, or Israel or even the American people.

Wisner is right in that if Mubarak is left to gradually fade from power as he is replaced, there is less chance of any radicals having as much influence. But at the same time, this is not in the interests of the Egyptians who want a democracy that reflects their views.

It seems to me that the Administration is doing a great job so far. There can be no guarantees that the Egyptians will elect someone who will continue to suck up to Israel's desire to make a prison of Gaza.


Of course you think the administration is doing a great job waffling back and forth with Egypt. But aren't you the same person that enjoys eating pipping hot Obama shit sandwiches too?

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Re: Chaos/Flip Flop from Obama White House on Egypt Policy!
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 06:31:42 PM »
You are clueless about how foreign policy works, so all you can do is utter insulting nonsense like this.

Go sit in your corner and play with your toes, and try not to drool on everything.
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Re: Chaos/Flip Flop from Obama White House on Egypt Policy!
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 06:57:00 PM »
You are clueless about how foreign policy works, so all you can do is utter insulting nonsense like this.

Go sit in your corner and play with your toes, and try not to drool on everything.

what kind of bread do you have with your sandwich?