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Lanya

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Could get ugly
« on: December 31, 2006, 03:05:10 PM »
LUGAR: 'THIS COULD GET UGLY'.... Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), the outgoing chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has been surprisingly willing to break with the Bush White House on foreign policy and national security issues, far more than one might expect for a conservative Republican from a reliably "red" state.

Lugar, for example, was one of the first lawmakers to publicly criticize the Bush administration's practice of paying Iraqi news outlets to publish American propaganda. Soon after, Lugar told Newsweek that Bush should be more like Bill Clinton when it comes to being exposed to a variety competing ideas. Lugar has even pushed back against some Donald Rumsfeld's less defensible comments.

But today, responding to the notion of an escalation in Iraq, Lugar went a little further than he usually does.

    Today on Fox News Sunday, Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN), the outgoing chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, said President Bush should have congressional support before he announces any plan for escalation in Iraq. "n the past, the administration has been inclined not to disregard Congress but to not take Congress very seriously. I think this time Congress has to be taken seriously."

    If Bush ignores Congress, Lugar said he should expect "a lot of hearings, a lot of study, a lot of criticism," and "demands for subpoenas." Fox host Chris Wallace said, "You saying this could get ugly." Lugar replied, "Yes, it could."

Asked directly if he supports sending more troops, Lugar said he didn't know, but recommended a "retreat" in which members of the Foreign Relations Committee studies the president's plan and responds to it, before the plan is implemented.

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Re: Could get ugly
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2006, 03:19:53 PM »
or the dems could just screw up the courage to pull the plug on the war.


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Re: Could get ugly
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2006, 05:25:58 PM »
Lugar is one of our best, in my view, and his thoughts should carry considerable weight. Harkening back to Lieberman's recent article arguing for a substantial surge, I, along with Lugar, apparently, and many Democratic senators, still harbor serious reservations. There is the matter of efficacy: is the situation now so seriously grave and deteriorating that an open civil war is inevitable over which we will have little to no control, and a surge would just send our men into the killing fields? There is the matter possibility: do we even have the troops available to maintain, let alone escalate our effort? And then there is the matter of cost: even assuming an optimal outcome (however that tailored down concept is now defined) would it cost us more than the outcome is worth? All the while, these calculations must be made in the overall context of the conflict with violent, radical Islam, "the main event," and should heavily factor how we can position ourselves for success in that struggle, with or without an "early" withdrawal from Iraq. To this end -- considering these issues and the palpable need for some kind of consensus going forward -- Lugar's idea of a Foreign Relations Committee retreat BEFORE promulgation of Bush's plan, and his implied call for broad amd meaningful overall Congressional consultation are simply the basics of a successful policy formulation and implementation.

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Re: Could get ugly
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2006, 07:30:08 PM »
Lugar has departed the heard and requires to be shunned for dareing to do his own thinking.

This is a new thing for us could you Democrats give us some tips on shunning?

You know like you have been doing for Liberman?