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kimba1

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Re: Manned spacecraft
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2011, 01:36:04 AM »
this will contradict what I stated earlier alittle, but I`m never crazy about the need to make humanoid robots, I believe we can make some serious functioning device if we let go of this concepts. but the then I can`t stand the movie Irobot,so i`m biased

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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2011, 11:32:01 AM »
I imagine that space exploring robots would not be humanoid in form.

Everything goes faster on wheels than legs, and doesn't have to stay balanced. A robot can have as many arms and legs as are needed. Humans are perhaps well designed for what we do and what we are, but a specialized robot would be better, and would not look like us.

Movies are movies. Taking them seriously is probably not the best way to go. If you want a robot to be a hit in a film, it should look like a person or some familiar animal. If it looks like a Buick or a Mighty Vac, it will not be a hit with the public. The same does not apply and should not apply to robots for exploration. They might stick a cute face on them if they are going to be on TV, though.
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Re: Manned spacecraft
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2011, 11:40:50 AM »
look at todays tv or dvd players. alot of the controls are phased out and are accessed by remotes.little by little human interphase will be replaced by remotesv and not for human hands to control. we may need to implant remotes to function in the future. we never quite bother to find a cure for forgertfulness

I wonder why voice commands didnt make it?

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Re: Manned spacecraft
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2011, 11:48:02 AM »
I wonder why voice commands didnt make it?

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In addition to the fact that people speak many languages, each person has a different voice and different diction, and humans are not accustomed to saying the exact same thing every time they make a request. The computer must be trained to respond to specific voices giving specific commands.

You have to train both the computerized gizmo and the person commanding it to get it to work. Eventually, voice will be used for specific devices, but sometimes pushing a button is a far easier solution.
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Re: Manned spacecraft
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2011, 03:08:36 PM »
my ipod has voice command and alot of phones has it. but notice only in movies people use them.  alot of companies has voice control on thier phone service, I  talk very differently when I address them,it the only way it`ll understand me

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Re: Manned spacecraft
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2011, 07:07:44 PM »
I imagine that space exploring robots would not be humanoid in form.

Everything goes faster on wheels than legs, and doesn't have to stay balanced. A robot can have as many arms and legs as are needed. Humans are perhaps well designed for what we do and what we are, but a specialized robot would be better, and would not look like us.

Movies are movies. Taking them seriously is probably not the best way to go. If you want a robot to be a hit in a film, it should look like a person or some familiar animal. If it looks like a Buick or a Mighty Vac, it will not be a hit with the public. The same does not apply and should not apply to robots for exploration. They might stick a cute face on them if they are going to be on TV, though.


Did you mean it when you said they should be cute?

I think the reason to make them humanoid is so tat the standard tools will fit, also they operate as "Waldos" (that is as remote controll devices) so the controll is natural to the operator.

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Re: Manned spacecraft
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2011, 12:42:10 AM »
Actually, the only reason for exploration robots to be cute is that building them will require the taxpayers to pay for them. People will pay to save spotted owls, whales and dolphins. They won't pay to protect skinks, voles and vultures, though they also are a part of the natural scheme of things.

Robots should look sleek and clever, but I suppose they could be cute, like Wall-E. But Wall-E's girlfriend robot was also pretty cool. A robot that resembles a transformer , particularly the villain transformers, would probably not be as well received a design.

Most of the things people create do not look humanoid. You can't fix a human being with a screwdriver and a socket and ratchet set. "standard tools" are generally used with metal objects.

Any device that operates on Mars or an asteroid is going to be operated with a remote, isn't it?
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Re: Manned spacecraft
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2011, 01:12:55 AM »

Most of the things people create do not look humanoid. You can't fix a human being with a screwdriver and a socket and ratchet set. "standard tools" are generally used with metal objects.

Any device that operates on Mars or an asteroid is going to be operated with a remote, isn't it?

By "standard tools" I ment tools built to be held in human hands, no need to have a tool set especially for the robot, the astronaughts and the robot can use the same .

Operateing by remote commands is what most of them do most of the time , but as AI continues to develop robots that operate on their own more become likely and offer a lot of advantage.

A "Waldo" has a controller station where the operaters motion is sensed and conveyed to the robot to be copyed by the robot.

Cameras in the robots "head" can feed screens that the operator can wear as goggles giveing a strong virtual illusion that the operater is where the robot actually is.

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Re: Manned spacecraft
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2011, 01:21:30 AM »
thats what angers me about I robot. a AI robotn made afordable enough to do household chores? strangely i can handle surogates,