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Seasteading
« on: August 16, 2011, 07:22:11 PM »
 

Seasteading Institute city design (Anthony Ling)

Pay Pal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel has given $1.25 million to an initiative to create floating libertarian countries in international waters, according to a profile of the billionaire in Details magazine.

Thiel has been a big backer of the Seasteading Institute, which seeks to build sovereign nations on oil rig-like platforms to occupy waters beyond the reach of law-of-the-sea treaties. The idea is for these countries to start from scratch--free from the laws, regulations, and moral codes of any existing place. Details says the experiment would be "a kind of floating petri dish for implementing policies that libertarians, stymied by indifference at the voting booths, have been unable to advance: no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons."

"There are quite a lot of people who think it's not possible," Thiel said at a Seasteading Institute Conference in 2009, according to Details. (His first donation was in 2008, for $500,000.) "That's a good thing. We don't need to really worry about those people very much, because since they don't think it's possible they won't take us very seriously. And they will not actually try to stop us until it's too late."

The Seasteading Institute's Patri Friedman says the group plans to launch an office park off the San Francisco coast next year, with the first full-time settlements following seven years later.

Thiel made news earlier this year for putting a portion of his $1.5 billion fortune into an initiative to encourage entrepreneurs to skip college.

Another Silicon Valley titan, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, announced in June that he would be funding the "Clock of the Long Now." The clock is designed to keep ticking for 10,000 years, and will be built in a mountain in west Texas.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/silicon-valley-billionaire-funding-creation-artificial-libertarian-islands-140840896.html
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Re: Seasteading
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 09:24:53 PM »

oh the control freaks are not gonna like this at all!
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Re: Seasteading
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 09:29:59 PM »
      What industry?

       Fish? Software?
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Re: Seasteading
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 09:40:58 PM »
  This matches a daydream I have often had , but I would not anchor the city, rather I would use local powersorces to keep it on station in deep water.

     It would be built on long chains of large barges , a very long hose could reach the bottom and suck up the output of a black smoker , the industry could be the extraction of Manganeese and other minerals from the water.

      The hose would not require much pumping , the very hot water would lift itself up the hose and the minerals would preccipitate when the hot water was cooled near the surface.

       If certain minerals were excess they could be jettisoned as fertilising elements to encourage algal growth in the nearly sterile water of the central ocean.
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Re: Seasteading
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 11:05:17 PM »
What is  a "black smoker"?

To reach the ocean's bottom would involve a lot of hose and a lot of pumping.
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Re: Seasteading
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 11:45:05 PM »
http://www.divediscover.whoi.edu/vents/vent-infomod.html


500 degree water could lift itself to the surface , only a hose would be required , an insulated hose to keep the heat and a hose of carefullly adjusted bouyancy so that it need not be very strong.

   The mineral rich water is fertilizer to the too pure water of the central ocean. Some of the minerals are potentially valuable  as comercial products.
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Re: Seasteading
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2011, 12:13:53 AM »
You just have to love these "philosophically consistent" libertarians. They're the first ones to demand open borders for everyone else, but who do you see running these Free State Projects and building these Seasteads so they can segregate themselves from the hoi polloi and have things their own way?

Let's see if this Seastead has open borders. I know how I'm betting on that!
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Re: Seasteading
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 05:56:39 AM »
I had no idea people found an actual use for "black smoker"
I thought it was too toxic to be dealt with
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Re: Seasteading
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 02:25:21 PM »
What the Libertarians want is a bunch of small independent pseudo nations that have even fewer restrictions than Sark, the Caymans or other tax havens, so they can thrive on untaxed money illegally smuggled in. Now that Switzerland has made money from criminals unwelcome, these guys want to benefit.

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Re: Seasteading
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 12:22:20 AM »
Quote from: kimba1 on August 17, 2011, 05:56:39 AM
I had no idea people found an actual use for "black smoker"
I thought it was too toxic to be dealt with


I am sure it would stink.

But the fishing for miles around would be improved.
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