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The strange case of Bergergate
« on: January 15, 2007, 10:10:52 PM »
Again, just imagine the deafening outrage that would be permeating the liberal left and the mainscream media, if this were Condi Rice, or ANY Republican for that matter

The Berger Files
The case of the purloined archives gets stranger all the time.

Saturday, January 13, 2007


The more we learn about Sandy Berger's brilliant career as a document thief, the clearer it becomes that there is plenty we still don't know and may never learn. On Tuesday, the House Government Reform Committee released its report on Mr. Berger's pilfering of classified documents from the National Archives.

The committee's 60-page report makes it clear that Mr. Berger
- knew exactly what he was doing
and
- knew that what he was doing was wrong.

According to interviews with National Archives staff, Mr. Berger repeatedly arranged to be left alone with highly classified documents by feigning the need to make personal phone calls, and he used those moments alone with the files to stuff them in his pockets and briefcase.

One incident is particularly suggestive. By his fourth and final visit to review documents and prepare for testimony before the 9/11 Commission, the Archives staff had grown suspicious of how Mr. Berger was handling the documents, so they numbered each one he was given in pencil on the back of the document. When one of them--No. 217--was apparently removed from the files by Mr. Berger, the staff reprinted a copy and replaced it for his review. According to the report, Mr. Berger then proceeded to slip the second copy "under his portfolio also." In other words, he stole the same document twice.

This gives the lie to Mr. Berger's story that he was taking the documents for his own convenience, to assist with his preparation for testimony to the commission. If that were the whole story, one copy of document 217 would surely have been sufficient. That document was an email pertaining to a draft of the Millennium After-Action Report on the attempted bombing of Los Angeles International Airport. The episode suggests that Mr. Berger had some other motive for removing No. 217, even if he was ultimately unsuccessful in doing so. But neither his April 2005 plea agreement, nor the Congressional report, nor the report of the Archives' Inspector General shed any light on what that motive might have been.

Another telling revelation concerns Mr. Berger's access to original, uncopied and uninventoried documents from the files of former NSC antiterror official Richard Clarke, among others. At the time Mr. Berger made his misdemeanor plea agreement, we were assured by then-federal prosecutor Noel Hillman that there was no evidence that Mr. Berger destroyed or intended to destroy any original documents. That was, strictly speaking, true. But during three of Mr. Berger's four visits to the Archives in 2002 and 2003, the former National Security Adviser did have access to original documents of which no adequate inventory existed or exists.

This seems relevant, given the concern that Mr. Berger's breaches of national security might have denied evidence to history of the Clinton Administration's approach to al Qaeda and the threat of terrorism. And yet the Justice Department clearly gave the impression that there was no danger that Mr. Berger abridged the historical record. We now know that this was not true. Mr. Berger was in a position to remove documents from Mr. Clarke's files, and thanks to lax security, breaches of protocol and undue deference on the part of Archives staff, we may never know whether Mr. Berger took documents other than the five he's admitted to removing.

It is true that there is no affirmative evidence he did so. But it is equally true that he had opportunity and a demonstrated willingness to breach security in his handling of the documents.
As for motive, this remains shrouded in mystery, in part because the documents Mr. Berger has admitted to taking remain highly classified, so the precise nature of his interest is unclear.

Thanks to Justice's and the Archives' leniency, or laxity, or both, Mr. Berger's plea deal expires in 2008--just in time, perhaps, for the next Clinton Administration.

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Re: The strange case of Bergergate
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2007, 06:07:55 AM »
There are people in prison for this sort of thing.


I grow intensely courious about what the content of thise documents were.

But..

Sandy Berger knew the context of these documents better than I do , it is possible I would not understand the signifigance of them .

But I have to suppose that they were signifigant , elese why try to steal them?

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Re: The strange case of Bergergate
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2007, 08:01:25 AM »
I find it highly amusing that even though you characters are ignorant as to what the contents of these supposedly stolen items are, you seem to want this guy flogged, only because in your minds a ratwing document thief might also be marked for flogging also in your minds, since to date, no ratwingers have been even mildly inconvenienced by anyone.
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Re: The strange case of Bergergate
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2007, 11:10:11 AM »
I find it highly amusing that even though you characters are ignorant as to what the contents of these supposedly stolen items are,

Regardless of the contents of the documents, stealing classified documents from the government's archives is a crime.

And it's not "supposedly stolen" - unless you want to totally ignore Berger's confession of his actions.
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Re: The strange case of Bergergate
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2007, 11:19:27 AM »
So arrest him, already.

None of us has the power to do this. I hardly think a citizen's arrest is in order here.

You are bitching about a problem of quite dubious importance as though somehow it should be prosecuted because greater, though unmentioned and unprosecuted injustices have been inflicted on the other side.

I find this amusing. But it is getting boring.
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Re: The strange case of Bergergate
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2007, 11:30:07 AM »
So arrest him, already.

He already has been arrested. He's currently on probation.
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Re: The strange case of Bergergate
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 11:33:38 AM »
So clamor for his head on a stick, and quit bitching about how justice had not been done.
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Re: The strange case of Bergergate
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2007, 11:37:12 AM »
So clamor for his head on a stick, and quit bitching about how justice had not been done.

People are complaining because of the "slap on the wrist" nature of the punishment. He got no jail time, only probation, and his security clearance will be reinstated after his probation ends. I've known people who did less and had their clearances yanked.
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Re: The strange case of Bergergate
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2007, 11:53:18 AM »
Berger is obviously one of the elite that exist in both parties. They are immune to prosecution, just as Nixon was immune.
Cheney will lamentably never see the inside of a much-deserved cell, nor will Juniorbush, Negroponte, Feith, or any of the asshole neocons.  Probably not 'Scooter' Libbey, either.

Note please all the cheering for Ford for having 'done the Right Thing' for letting Nixon off.
I fail to see how throwing Nixon in prison could have done anything but good for the system. There was all this CRAP about how 'no man is above the law', but there, angelically floating far above us all, was Nixon, until his death still writing about how effing innocent he was.

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Both parties have agreed not to prosecute their higher lackeys, lest they themselves get sent to prison.

Just as somehow that fat Armitage being stuck with revealing Valerie Plame's identity absolved Cheney, as if by magic.
Armitage apparently occupies a higher plane in the ether than Berger.

WE have 300,000,000 people in this country, and ample cells for all the criminals. I have no problem with ending all this immunity forever.

But it isn't gonna happen.

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