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Plane

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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2007, 05:08:05 PM »
I do not wish the life of a communist onto my worst enemy Cambodia especially became a Hell on Earth as it tried to enforce a communist orthodoxy .  You predicted a US loss in Vietnam five years early?  Did you predict the millions that would die afterwards as a result?  Can you predict the scale of destruction that will follow our failure in Iraq?

IMHO Plane, I don't think Tee really cares.  As long as the U.S gets a big bad political black eye, that the american image is as tarnashed & dragged thru the mud as much as possible, as well as whatever American military casualties can be acrued, I think that's all that really matters.  We are the "pure evil" on the globe, and our military is simply a big mass of murderers and rapists, so anything is really justified in taking out such pure evil


MT is willing to talk about it , this is valuable to me .

My understanding of the point of view he represents sholdn't be based entirely on my own supposition.

Also I don't think his POV is a rare one , it s just not one I have easy access to.

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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2007, 05:28:24 PM »
MT is willing to talk about it....Also I don't think his POV is a rare one , it s just not one I have easy access to.

I never implied anything different.  Quite the contrary, the more his POV can be made apparent, the more "perspective" that can be gleemed from it.  And that is absolutely to be encouraged
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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2007, 05:32:30 PM »
MT is willing to talk about it....Also I don't think his POV is a rare one , it s just not one I have easy access to.

I never implied anything different.  Quite the contrary, the more his POV can be made apparent, the more "perspective" that can be gleemed from it.  And that is absolutely to be encouraged


Well then don't be stingy complementing MT's virtues , such as they are.

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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2007, 05:35:38 PM »
I never implied anything different.  Quite the contrary, the more his POV can be made apparent, the more "perspective" that can be gleemed from it.  And that is absolutely to be encouraged

Well then don't be stingy complementing MT's virtues , such as they are.

*snicker*.........never
« Last Edit: January 14, 2007, 07:34:02 PM by sirs »
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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2007, 10:09:48 PM »
<<I do not wish the life of a communist onto my worst enemy Cambodia especially became a Hell on Earth as it tried to enforce a communist orthodoxy .>>

Became a hell on earth after the U.S. exported the war into its borders and destroyed the power of the only force that was keeping Pol Pot neutralized.

<<You predicted a US loss in Vietnam five years early?>>

No, TEN years early.

<<Did you predict the millions that would die afterwards as a result?>>

I didn't predict the Pol Pot regime, no.  It would never have happened if America had not invaded Cambodia.  Nixon, who authorized the invasion of Cambodia, never predicted it either.  It's a great example of what can happen when you start fucking around in a part of the world whose ancient civilization you have no clue about at all.

<<Can you predict the scale of destruction that will follow our failure in Iraq?>>

No, and neither can you and neither can your moron "President," who hasn't predicted one fucking thing right since he started this war of his - - but whose prediction now of horrendous catastrophe you are once again as ready to believe as if he and his circle of war criminals had been dead-on with every prediction they ever made. unbelievable.

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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2007, 01:15:20 AM »
I do not wish the life of a communist onto my worst enemy Cambodia especially became a Hell on Earth as it tried to enforce a communist orthodoxy .  You predicted a US loss in Vietnam five years early?  Did you predict the millions that would die afterwards as a result?  Can you predict the scale of destruction that will follow our failure in Iraq?

IMHO Plane, I don't think Tee really cares.  As long as the U.S gets a big bad political black eye, that the american image is as tarnashed & dragged thru the mud as much as possible, as well as whatever American military casualties can be acrued, I think that's all that really matters.  We are the "pure evil" on the globe, and our military is simply a big mass of murderers and rapists, so anything is really justified in taking out such pure evil


On the other hand, Tee is not hobbled by partriotism, which at times can interfer with clear thinking and meamingful perspective, nor is he as directly subject to the scales and chords of political correctness that bombard us daily from TV and media in general, and the spin machines from advertising,  and political, federa, and private practice intelligence, and bigger, fewer dragons of media influence.

He suffers not from species locale, as say plane from dixie america, lanya from the wounded rustbelt, or folks like Knute, Missus, and yourself, all going through the experience of different lifestyes, toughing it out in burning california. 

All have ties and influences of local culture which add more facets on an already crowded prism.

I for one appreciate Mikes views, which are sometimes more objective because they are without the distractions and mind drenchings to which we are less free of than he.  He does not have to daily imbibe a bowl of emotional soup, or be "one of them."

You will find like objectivity with the foreign press, which in general has far less farflung and enslaving webs of special interest, fewer plaguing hauntings of debts, guilts and shamings which shoulder us to Big Brother obesiance, and which therefore permit a straighter assessment, free from spin and fascination (in the witch sense).

In matter of fact, I find often that the foreign press has more credilibity, especially when you consider what is left out, what is purposely not reported.  The missing, the obstructed story is a tenet of political correctness, and a reason for its being.

You might listen to Mike with a fresh ear.  Your present foxhole, after all,  has made you hoarse from scoffing and dizzy from hurling derisions.


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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2007, 01:29:14 AM »
<<I do not wish the life of a communist onto my worst enemy Cambodia especially became a Hell on Earth as it tried to enforce a communist orthodoxy .>>

Became a hell on earth after the U.S. exported the war into its borders and destroyed the power of the only force that was keeping Pol Pot neutralized.

<<You predicted a US loss in Vietnam five years early?>>

No, TEN years early.

<<Did you predict the millions that would die afterwards as a result?>>

I didn't predict the Pol Pot regime, no.  It would never have happened if America had not invaded Cambodia.  Nixon, who authorized the invasion of Cambodia, never predicted it either.  It's a great example of what can happen when you start fucking around in a part of the world whose ancient civilization you have no clue about at all.

<<Can you predict the scale of destruction that will follow our failure in Iraq?>>

No, and neither can you and neither can your moron "President," who hasn't predicted one fucking thing right since he started this war of his - - but whose prediction now of horrendous catastrophe you are once again as ready to believe as if he and his circle of war criminals had been dead-on with every prediction they ever made. unbelievable.


And without the American presence woldn't the communists have simply taken over sooner?

Is it really fair to blame the US for the bad behavior of the enemys of the US, when it is just this behavior that makes them the enemy of the US in the first pace?
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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2007, 01:35:28 AM »
I do not wish the life of a communist onto my worst enemy Cambodia especially became a Hell on Earth as it tried to enforce a communist orthodoxy .  You predicted a US loss in Vietnam five years early?  Did you predict the millions that would die afterwards as a result?  Can you predict the scale of destruction that will follow our failure in Iraq?
He suffers not from species locale, as say plane from dixie america, lanya from the wounded rustbelt, or folks like Knute, Missus, and yourself, all going through the experience of different lifestyes, toughing it out in burning california. 



Great ,I am pidgeonholed.

So are we all , can you tell us where you are from , instead of what you are thinking?

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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2007, 02:05:53 AM »
<<Is it really fair to blame the US for the bad behavior of the enemys of the US, when it is just this behavior that makes them the enemy of the US in the first pace?>>

No, that's YOUR delusion.  MY delusion is that they are enemys of the U.S. because of the U.S.'s bad behaviour.

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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2007, 02:08:55 AM »
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No, that's YOUR delusion.  MY delusion is that they are enemys of the U.S. because of the U.S.'s bad behaviour.

Colliding delusions.

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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2007, 02:16:18 AM »
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No, that's YOUR delusion.  MY delusion is that they are enemys of the U.S. because of the U.S.'s bad behaviour.

Colliding delusions.


Hahahahahahahahahahaha!


exactly so


I shouldn't pretend it is that simple?

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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2007, 02:16:36 AM »
It is in the Koran, and has been there for centuries: "THere shall not be two religions in Arabia".

The US sent US troops to Saudi Arabia, and some of them came with thousands of Arabic Christian Bibles, which they used to proselytize. It is not the business of the US to spread the Christian or any religion. The US Army should never be a missionary squad.

That is how you piss off fundamentalists enough to want to kill themselves just to let you know to leave them and their country and their religion the Hell alone.

The first warning was the bombing of Khobar towers. Observe how all the US troops were removed very quickly after 9-11.

There should never have been any US troops in Saudi Arabia. You can blame dummies like James Baker and Marilyn Allbrite for that. It was bipartisan stupidity.
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Re: Latest Bush Lie
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2007, 02:27:42 AM »
It is in the Koran, and has been there for centuries: "THere shall not be two religions in Arabia".

The US sent US troops to Saudi Arabia, and some of them came with thousands of Arabic Christian Bibles, which they used to proselytize. It is not the business of the US to spread the Christian or any religion. The US Army should never be a missionary squad.

That is how you piss off fundamentalists enough to want to kill themselves just to let you know to leave them and their country and their religion the Hell alone.

The first warning was the bombing of Khobar towers. Observe how all the US troops were removed very quickly after 9-11.

There should never have been any US troops in Saudi Arabia. You can blame dummies like James Baker and Marilyn Allbrite for that. It was bipartisan stupidity.



You call that provacation suffecient ?

Ge out of my nation you heathen!