Children in Iraq

[Lanya]

* Up to 260,000 children may have died since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.


http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2165470.ece

Meanwhile, using stem cells are a no no.
http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/01/saturday-cartoons_20.html

[Plane]

* The British doctors are calling for guarantees of safety to be given to all medical staff in Iraq by the US and British forces. Above all there is a need to stop the militias killing doctors and nurses.

* Hospitals have been bombed and ambulances shot at. Helicopters could be laid on by the US and UK to ferry cases to Jordan, Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia for treatment of acute trauma and disease.

This is liable to continue , the death rate is one of the most usefull things the insurgency has going for it.I have to expect them to do wha they can to improve it.

[Lanya]

There were no death squads before we started the war.

[sirs]

There were no death squads before we started the war.

No, just Saddam & his government run rape rooms, and familes being killed or their tongues pulled out if they dared raise a 1st amendment critique of their leader

[Plane]

There were no death squads before we started the war.

They are kiling children because his wll drive the Americans out .

Then they can fight amoung thmselves about who will be in charge.

[Xavier_Onassis]

No, just Saddam & his government run rape rooms, and familes being killed or their tongues pulled out if they dared raise a 1st amendment critique of their leader

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But as a direct result of this misbegotten war, about one out of ten Iraqis has LEFT THE COUNTRY.

Many thousands more have been forced to move.

The people kicking down people's doors in Iraq these days are the Americans and those who are paid by them.


The ultimate civil liberty is being able to stay alive. The next most important is being able to stay in your home.

Juniorbush has screwed Iraq up even more than Saddam. Very difficult to do, but his ignorance and incompetence are infinite.

[sirs]

No, just Saddam & his government run rape rooms, and familes being killed or their tongues pulled out if they dared raise a 1st amendment critique of their leader
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But .......

But the fact still remains that Saddam was a murderous dictator, wh's sons ran Government protected rape rooms, who's government routinely put bullets in people's brains for daring to criticize the government and advocate change.  And the FACT still remains that when polled, the majority of Iraqis are supportive to Saddam being taken out, regardless the cost to themselves.  That's how much freedom has meant to them, despite yours & Lanya's desire that Saddam should still be running things

[Xavier_Onassis]

the majority of Iraqis are supportive to Saddam being taken out, regardless the cost to themselves.  That's how much freedom has meant to them, despite yours & Lanya's desire that Saddam should still be running things

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The majority when polled by Americans may say this. I have no desire that Saddam be in charge at all. But I also believe that the price to be paid for throwing him out need not have been paid by Americans. It is one thing to want a dictator to vanish, but something entirely different for non-Iraqis to die and pay billions and billions to throw him out and screw things up even worse as a result of their monumental incompetence.

[BT]

* Up to 260,000 children may have died since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Where does this figure come from?

[Lanya]

From the article at the attached link. 

[sirs]

the majority of Iraqis are supportive to Saddam being taken out, regardless the cost to themselves.  That's how much freedom has meant to them, despite yours & Lanya's desire that Saddam should still be running things
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The majority when polled by Americans may say this.

Care to demonstrate a poll of Iraqis taken by Iraqis that say different?  Do show

I have no desire that Saddam be in charge at all.

Yet that's what you and Lanya keep implying with how things were apparently "so much better" before we got involved

But I also believe that the price to be paid for throwing him out need not have been paid by Americans.

That's 1 seemingly noble position.  Personally to have left the Iraqi people in the throws of absolute anarchy, once Saddam was taken out, would have been immoral.  But that's just me

[BT]

From the article at the attached link. 

I saw that. And i saw they didn't document the number. Guess we should just take their word for it.