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Stuxnet Kills Top Man of Iranian ballistic missile program!?
« on: November 18, 2011, 11:13:44 AM »
Suspicion in Iran that Stuxnet caused
Revolutionary Guards base explosions


DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

November 18, 2011, 2:29 PM (GMT+02:00)


Iran's Sejil 2 ballistic missile.

Is the Stuxnet computer malworm back on the warpath in Iran?

Exhaustive investigations into the deadly explosion last Saturday, Nov. 12 of the Sejil-2 ballistic missile at the Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) Alghadir base point increasingly to a technical fault originating in the computer system controlling the missile and not the missile itself.

The head of Iran's ballistic missile program Maj. Gen. Hassan Moghaddam was among the 36 officers killed in the blast which rocked Tehran 46 kilometers away.
(Tehran reported 17 deaths although 36 funerals took place.)


Maj. Gen. Hassan Moghaddam

Since the disaster, experts have run tests on missiles of the same type as Sejil 2 and on their launching mechanisms.

debkafile's military and Iranian sources disclose three pieces of information coming out of the early IRGC probe:

1.   Maj. Gen. Moghaddam had gathered Iran's top missile experts around the Sejil 2 to show them a new type of warhead which could also carry a nuclear payload. No experiment was planned. The experts were shown the new device and asked for their comments.

2.  Moghaddam presented the new warhead through a computer simulation attached to the missile. His presentation was watched on a big screen. The missile exploded upon an order from the computer.

The warhead blew first; the solid fuel in its engines next, so explaining the two consecutive bangs across Tehran and the early impression of two explosions, the first more powerful than the second, occurring at the huge 52 sq. kilometer complex of Alghadir.

3.  Because none of the missile experts survived and all the equipment and structures pulverized within a half-kilometer radius of the explosion, the investigators had no witnesses and hardly any physical evidence to work from.

Iranian intelligence heads entertain two initial theories to account for the sudden calamity: a) that Western intelligence service or the Israeli Mossad managed to plant a technician among the missile program's personnel and he signaled the computer to order the missile to explode; or b), a theory which they find more plausible, that the computer controlling the missile was infected with the Stuxnet virus which misdirected the missile into blowing without anyone present noticing anything amiss until it was too late.

It is the second theory which has got Iran's leaders really worried because it means that, in the middle of spiraling tension with the United States and Israel or their nuclear weapons program, their entire Shahab 3 and Sejil 2 ballistic missile arsenal is infected and out of commission until minute tests are completed. Western intelligence sources told debkafile that Iran's supreme armed forces chief Gen. Hassan Firouz-Abadi was playing for time when he announced this week that the explosion had "only delayed by two weeks the manufacturing of an experimental product by the Revolutionary Guards which could be a strong fist in the face of arrogance (the United States) and the occupying regime (Israel)."

Iran needs time to thoroughly investigate the causes of the fatal explosion and convince everyone that the computer systems controlling its missiles of the Stuxnet malworm will be cleansed and running in no time just like the  Natanz uranium enrichment installation and Bushehr atomic reactor which were decontaminated between June and September 2010.

If indeed Stuxnet is back, the cleanup this time would take several months, according to Western experts - certainly longer than the two weeks estimated by Gen. Firouz-Abadi.

Those experts also rebut the contention of certain Western and Russian computer pros that Stuxnet and another virus called Duqu are linked.

The head of Iran's civil defense program Gholamreza Jalali said this week that the fight against Duqu is "in its initial phase" and the final report "which says which organizations the virus has spread to and what its impacts are has not been complete yet. All the organizations and centers that could be susceptible to being contaminated are under control."
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Re: Stuxnet Kills Top Man of Iranian ballistic missile program!?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 03:39:46 PM »
It makes more sense to do this than to go ape with a bombing spree.

When the Israelis bombed Iraq's nuclear facilities, they said nothing in advance. The same happened when the bombed Syria's nuclear program.

Is it possible that they only announce that they are going to bomb Iran when they have no intentions to do so? Could it not be just to sew confusion while they are waiting for stuxnet or other espionage to work?

Debkafiles is a propaganda tool, that seems pretty certain.

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Re: Stuxnet Kills Top Man of Iranian ballistic missile program!?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 06:24:07 PM »
you could be right XO!
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Re: Stuxnet Kills Top Man of Iranian ballistic missile program!?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 06:29:19 PM »


Report: Israel to employ high-tech
weapons in Iran strike


American intelligence officials tell the Daily Beast Israel assembling
multibillion-dollar array of high-tech weapons that would allow it to jam
Tehran's defenses in case of pre-emptive strike


Ynet Published:  11.17.11, 18:04 / Israel News 

Current and former US intelligence officials estimate that any Israeli attack on nuclear sites in Iran would go far beyond airstrikes from F-15 and F-16 fighter jets and likely include electronic warfare against the Islamic Republic's electric grid, Internet, cell phone network, and emergency frequencies for firemen and police officers. 

The officials, who based their assessment on a US intelligence report published last summer, told the Daily Beast news website that Israel has been assembling a multibillion-dollar array of high-tech weapons that would allow it to jam, blind, and deafen Tehran's defenses in the case of a pre-emptive aerial strike. 

According to the officials, one of the weapons Israel has developed is capable of mimicking a maintenance cell phone signal that commands a cell network to ?sleep,? effectively stopping transmissions. The Israelis also have jammers capable of creating interference within Iran?s emergency frequencies for first responders, they told the Daily Beast.

The sources also said that in case of an attack on Iran, Israel would likely exploit a vulnerability that American officials detected two years ago in Iran's big-city electric grids, which are not ?air-gapped??meaning they are connected to the Internet and therefore vulnerable to a Stuxnet-style cyberattack.

One source told the Daily Beast that Israel has the capability to bring a denial-of-service attack to nodes of Iran?s command and control system that rely on the Internet. 

According to the report, the likely delivery method for the electronic elements of this attack would be a drone the size of a jumbo jet.

The Daily Beast said Israel had already employed some of the technology at its disposal during its alleged aerial attack on a Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007. 

"Syrian military got a taste of this warfare when Israeli planes 'spoofed' the country?s air-defense radars, at first making it appear that no jets were in the sky and then in an instant making the radar believe the sky was filled with hundreds of planes," the report said. 

A recent report published by the International Atomic Energy Agency suggested Iran was pursuing nuclear weapons. On Wednesday Defense Minister Ehud Barak caused a storm when told American broadcaster Charlie Rose he'd also seek nuclear weapons if he were Iranian. 

Meanwhile, an Iranian website reported Thursday that "at least 36" members of the Revolutionary Guard were killed during last week's massive explosion at a military base outside Tehran. Initial reports said 17 people were killed in the blast.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4149819,00.html

 

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Re: Stuxnet Kills Top Man of Iranian ballistic missile program!?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 06:32:44 PM »
   Wait a minute here.

   Irans offencive balistic missles are temporilary useless , or even dangerous to be around, ....temporilarily?

     If we (or Isreal) needs to attack Iran will there ever be a better time?

     This is terriffic and terrible both , if it is true.

      So is Stuxnet ours , so we have an antidote that will keep our stuff from going haywire?

     So how much worse does an crack attack need to be before it is considered an act of war?
       

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Re: Stuxnet Kills Top Man of Iranian ballistic missile program!?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 06:46:36 PM »
      So is Stuxnet ours , so we have an antidote that will keep our stuff from going haywire?

No official recognition, but it's my understanding that it's German.
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Re: Stuxnet Kills Top Man of Iranian ballistic missile program!?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 06:57:51 PM »
According to the report, the likely delivery method for the electronic elements of this attack would be a drone the size of a jumbo jet.

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That would be a bit hard to hide, wouldn't it?

Computer virus attacks are too new to have any rules governing them.

It would have to be known who launched the attack as a minimum to retaliate. And the bets retaliation would be a different computer virus attack.

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Re: Stuxnet Kills Top Man of Iranian ballistic missile program!?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 08:20:27 PM »
   Retaliation does not start with a trial, lucky if it starts with an investigation.

     Retaliation can start with the usual suspects.