Closing in on the "God particle"

[Plane]

If smaller particles and smaller quanta of energy are discovered , ... would this reset Heisenbergs uncertainty principal?

There would still be a definate limit on the certainty of small measurements , but the uncertain limits would be pushed back an order of magnitude.

[sirs]

Asked and answered by reply #3, then reinforced in subsequent requests for "clarification".  Start a new thread if it's THAT imperative to keep digging, Bt.  I'm not going to be your shovel

So true. Most shovels have points.

And mine was provided by reply #3

[BT]

not really

i was just being kind in letting you think your rationale made sense.

[sirs]

keep digging

[BSB]

Plane, if you know what you just said you're way above my pay grade. I'm just faking it.

BSB

[Plane]

Plane, if you know what you just said you're way above my pay grade. I'm just faking it.

BSB

I do not understand all of it!

But every thing big is understood in peices , some of which I get.

If you want to know where a Photon is and where it is going and what frequency it represents etc etc you reallly cannot, you can find out one fact from this photon the finding of which will destroy the rest of the information you might want. The measurement of one fact from the photon , must necessacerily change the photon too much for any further measurement .

It is as if your measurement device was a bowling ball, if you were measureing a battleship by observing the impact and reflection of your bowling balls you can measure it quite a bit, but if you tryed to measure another bowling ball by impact of your measureing bowling ball only the first impact would bring you any truth, the next measurement would be heavily contaminated by the first measurement.

Heisenburg developed this concept into a sophisticated proof that there is a definate limit to any certainty, and in the measurement of any small thing there is a quantifiable uncertainty that is absolutely unavoidable.

But , I wonder , if smaller particles are discovered, whether these small particles can express smaller quanta of energy also?

If so can these smaller particles and smaller quanta of energy be manipulated as measurement tools?

  It would be as if your measurment tools were shrunk from bowling balls to ping pong balls, now it might be possible to measure smaller stuff and the Heisenburg uncertainty would need to be reset.

Or do I have some of this wrong?

I certainly might.

[BSB]

The only reason I would like to be reborn would be to get another crack at science, and history. So important, and I gave them such little attention when I was young.

I whish I could debate it with you Plane, but it ain't my thing. Ami can probably help you out.


BSB

[Plane]

http://titaniumphysicists.brachiolopemedia.com/


Well I might not be quite up to Ami myself.

What did Will Rodgers say?

Everyone is ignorant ,..

Only on diffrent subjects.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If smaller particles and smaller quanta of energy are discovered , ... would this reset Heisenbergs uncertainty principal?

I would think that it would depend on the nature of the particles in question. How we discover what that nature is, I do not know.

If you cannot prove something exists, it would be more difficult to ascertain its characteristics, i would think.

[Plane]

If smaller particles and smaller quanta of energy are discovered , ... would this reset Heisenbergs uncertainty principal?

I would think that it would depend on the nature of the particles in question. How we discover what that nature is, I do not know.

If you cannot prove something exists, it would be more difficult to ascertain its characteristics, i would think.

Well , yes and no.

If you understand bowling balls well, you can project the understanding onto marbles and part of your supposition will be right.

Supposing that you find that there really are marbles, your partial understanding will either help you find them , or if you understand them poorly , your partial understanding might help them hide.

  A lot of these discoverys have been projected , present theroy thereby being confirmed, every now and then projections have been wrong and this was reason to revamp theroy.

[Plane]

http://motionsystemdesign.com/

http://motionsystemdesign.com/Magnetism.pdf
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