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Even the WSJ knows that no one listens to the Bushidiot anymore
« on: January 22, 2007, 11:26:47 PM »
        
January 23, 2007
   
A Skeptical Public Greets
State of the Union Speech
Survey Shows Bush
Has Little Leeway
For Big Policy Moves
By JOHN HARWOOD
January 23, 2007
WASHINGTON -- President Bush on Tuesday night gets another shot at persuading Americans to support his Iraq war strategy and domestic agenda. His problem: Much of the public has stopped listening.

A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll on the eve of Mr. Bush's State of the Union address underscores the extent to which he has lost the nation's ear. Just 22% of Americans say they want the president to set policy for the country, while 57% want Congress to do so. Two-thirds say his performance in office is unlikely to get better in his last two years as president.

IN THE POLLS
 
• Graphic: Bush's approval ratings across multiple polls1
 
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"What he faces is an extremely skeptical audience," says Democratic pollster Peter Hart, who helps conduct the Journal/NBC poll. The findings, adds his Republican counterpart Bill McInturff, suggest "little capacity for movement on his major policy initiatives, especially Iraq."

This month Mr. Bush spoke to the nation outlining plans to increase U.S. troop strength in Iraq, and the poll shows he failed to shift public opinion in his direction. An obvious reason: by 65% to 27%, Americans say the U.S. will eventually have to leave Iraq without a stable democratic government anyway.

"America has come to a public judgment on Iraq: Wrap it up," observes Mr. Hart. The telephone survey of 1,007 adults was conducted Jan. 17-20 and has a margin for error of 3.1 percentage points.

The president -- despite an overall approval rating standing at just 35%, while 60% disapprove -- has offered no indication of bending to that judgment. To the contrary, he has reiterated his intention to proceed in the face of opposition not only from Democrats, now the majority in Congress, but from an increasing number of his fellow Republicans.

The survey shows Mr. Bush and his Republican allies on solid ground with rank-and-file Americans on at least one point: opposition to any legislative blocking of funds for U.S. troops in Iraq.


So while a 65% majority of Americans say the president should abandon his planned troop increase if Congress passes a nonbinding resolution against it, Americans oppose by 52%-41% congressional attempts to stop Mr. Bush by cutting off funds. Democratic lawmakers have been juggling that potentially volatile issue: Leaders insist they won't stop funding troops in the field, but some senators and House members seek restrictions such as caps on the number of troops in Iraq.

Both Journal/NBC pollsters say Mr. Bush may be able to improve his standing by accommodating his reduced stature and the loss of his Republican congressional majorities with a revamped policy agenda. To some degree, the White House has signaled plans to attempt just that.

Auto industry analysts say they expect Mr. Bush to push for higher fuel-efficiency standards for passenger cars and possibly for efficiency credits that manufacturers could trade. Current rules require a manufacturer's fleet of cars to achieve an average of 27.5 miles a gallon (about 8.6 liters per 100 kilometers). The administration has called in the past for different mileage standards for different classes of cars.

Write to John Harwood at john.harwood@wsj.com3

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2007, 12:37:35 AM »
<<So while a 65% majority of Americans say the president should abandon his planned troop increase if Congress passes a nonbinding resolution against it, Americans oppose by 52%-41% congressional attempts to stop Mr. Bush by cutting off funds.>>

Has anyone figured this out?  How can 65% be against the troop increase if the Congress votes against it, but not want Congress to cut off the funds for it?  I tell my kid, I'm morally opposed to you going out and buying dope, but I'll still give you the money to buy dope if you want to buy dope?  Is that fucked or what?  I used to think it was the Democrats who were totally fucked, but it turns out to be worse than that - - it's the American public as well.  I put this down to piss-poor selling technique on the part of the anti-war movement; not the Democratic leadership but the anti-war movement.  Because the Democratic leadership is owned by the same interests that own the Republican Party.  They don't really want the war to end, they just want it to be won.

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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2007, 12:59:27 AM »
I'll go a different route.

The Dems don't want to do anything that might lose them power now that they have it.  They'll pass ineffectual resolutions till the cows come home or until the war devolves into utter chaos beyond Iraq or until something breaks and we "win" (whatever they can deem that to be) or until it looks like they may get lynched if they don't get off their asses.

My new congressman has joined with 16 others in HB 508 which is actually something with teeth.

http://woolsey.house.gov/SupportingFiles/documents/WOOLSE_008_xml.pdf

I urge you all to call your congressman and DEMAND he or she vote yes.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 02:05:33 AM »
That's been sort of the sound of my emails and calls to my reps.  DO It. This is what we elected you for, have some balls and DO IT. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2007, 02:19:25 AM »
That's been sort of the sound of my emails and calls to my reps.  DO It. This is what we elected you for, have some balls and DO IT. 

More important things to do, like.....increasing minimum wage, and......well, I guess that's it
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