Pre-June rant getting some practice

[BSB]

Ok than, we'll keep the armed forces and Obama care, and put the Surgeon General in charge.

BSB

[sirs]

Strange, in that in a debate forum, instead of reasoned thinking and discussion, from the all knowing all seeing, BsB, we seem to be getting idiotic hyperbole. 

Whatever floats your boat, B

[BSB]

I suppose the states might need some help regarding trade between them. You never know, one state might want to trade in slaves or another questionable product. And after all, we wouldn't want this country to be controlled by the black market like, say, that economic power house Afghanistan.


BSB




 

[sirs]

Whatever floats your boat B.  I'm sure you'll get back to us, when you are intenting on taking a topic seriously


Sirs

[BSB]

Since no man is an island we'll need some federal representatives to be out in the world securing a place for our business people who are interested in doing some international trade.


BSB

[Plane]

Then why haven't states facing near bankruptcy done away with state income taxes, if as you state, lowered income taxes equal higher sales tax revenue. Seems to be a no brainer, yet it hasn't happened.

So why?

The no brainer?
You would think that Fed and State governments would have lots of qualification for a no brainer.

Your argument is a reduction to absurdity.
If a reduction in rate improves revenue why doesn't the ultimate reduction , reduction to zero, improve revenue the most?

This  arguement depends on a rediculous reduction.
Go the other way for the same effect, if an increase in tax rate increases tax revenue and benefits the people , then the ultimate increase in tax rate, 100%, would be the best possible increase in revenue and the ultimate benifit to the people.

There are not really many conservatives that advocate that taxes be reduced to nothing, the common conservative position is more like a demand for effeciency , not to pay more for government than the payment needs to be.

Improvements in effeciency are good for most things , why is it not considered an option in government?

Why can't government be"right sized"?

[Plane]

I was referring to income taxes.
Lowering income taxes, as Ryan is proposing, will NOT increase revenues.

Why do you think this way?

Didn't exactly this happen for Reagan and Bush?

[Plane]

So you are not worried about a 75% reduction in government spending which in one way or another would be felt from wall street to main street  affecting the economy?

Would you turn the spigot off all at once?

Does the government depend on the economy ?

Or does the government feed the economy?

Do you worry that there will be too little grass if you have fewer cows in the pasture?
Do you expect a population explosion of rabbits to result from an excess of hawks?

Government may be needfull for other things , but it is backwards to think it is necessacery for providing businesses and employees with something to do, or the economy with a sorce of value.

[BT]

This  arguement depends on a rediculous reduction.

I think the 9 states without income tax would disagree.

[Plane]

Ok than, we'll keep the armed forces and Obama care, and put the Surgeon General in charge.

BSB

  How much is Obama Care going to cost?

   I don't see how with a topless mandate like ObamaCare you can depend on having money for anything elese.

    If health care costs so much that we can't pay for anything elese , why keep the military ?
  Thge Military is not an entitlement , it would be easyer to get rid of than Social Security , Medicare, Obamacare.

Don't laugh ,the post office is going away.

[Plane]

This  arguement depends on a rediculous reduction.

I think the 9 states without income tax would disagree.

They do tax something.

Alaska for example, taxes the oil production.

[BT]

Of course they do. But the subject was income tax cuts as a boon to sales tax revenue.

[Plane]

   The Federal Government did without an income tax for more than an hundred years.
   But they taxed with tarriff quite a lot.

     Tarriff is not the same as a sales taX, but it is close.

[BT]

Yes . So i have heard.

[BSB]

Of course these federal interferences in our lives will cost us something. We will probably need to raise some revenue. In a fair manner I should add.

BSB

P.S.  Plane, of course there is no way we can function, as a global power in the world today, without a military. And like it or not we are, and will remain for the foreseeable future, a global power.

Speaking of entitlements. The entitlements that come with being a veteran, particularly a veteran like myself, are costly to the tax payer in the extreme. That is what is driving the reduction in forces.