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Tracing the Trail of a Loner Coming Apart
« on: August 27, 2012, 03:26:19 AM »
In Colorado, Tracing the Trail of a Loner Coming Apart

AURORA, Colo. — The text message, sent to another graduate student in early July, was cryptic and worrisome. Had she heard of “dysphoric mania,” James Eagan Holmes wanted to know?

The psychiatric condition, a form of bipolar disorder, combines the frenetic energy of mania with the agitation, dark thoughts and in some cases paranoid delusions of major depression.

She messaged back, asking him if dysphoric mania could be managed with treatment. Mr. Holmes replied: “It was,” but added that she should stay away from him “because I am bad news.”

It was the last she heard from him.

About two weeks later, minutes into a special midnight screening of “The Dark Knight Rises” on July 20, Mr. Holmes, encased in armor, his hair tinted orange, a gas mask obscuring his face, stepped through the emergency exit of a sold-out movie theater here and opened fire. By the time it was over, there were 12 dead and 58 wounded.

Mr. Holmes, who was arrested outside the theater and has been charged in the shootings, has remained an enigma, his life and his motives cloaked by two court orders that have imposed a virtual blackout on information in the case.

Yet as time has passed, a clearer picture has begun to surface. Interviews with more than a dozen people who knew or had contact with Mr. Holmes in the months before the attack paint a disturbing portrait of a young man struggling with a severe mental illness who more than once hinted to others that he was losing his footing.


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Re: Tracing the Trail of a Loner Coming Apart
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2012, 07:20:15 AM »
Shouold people diagnosed with dangerous Psyciatric conditions be reported to the Federal database that is used to background check a gun buyer?

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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2012, 10:42:15 AM »
Shouold people diagnosed with dangerous Psyciatric conditions be reported to the Federal database that is used to background check a gun buyer?

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Re: Tracing the Trail of a Loner Coming Apart
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2012, 07:27:45 PM »
Shouold people diagnosed with dangerous Psyciatric conditions be reported to the Federal database that is used to background check a gun buyer?

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2012, 11:54:14 PM »
DUH! meaning: of course, it would be stupid to do anything else.

Crazy people should not own guns.
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Re: Tracing the Trail of a Loner Coming Apart
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 07:09:04 AM »
Do sane people want to own guns?

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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 10:04:51 AM »
That is not the issue. If you want to know who wants to own guns, you will have to ask them.

The crazy guy in Aurora should not have been allowed to own guns.
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Re: Tracing the Trail of a Loner Coming Apart
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 08:20:01 PM »
  I see catch 22!

  But perhaps I am just very suspicious.

  Imagine a Doctor who does not reeport a patient , and the patient becomes destructive.

  Could the government punish the Doctor?

   Right now Doctors respond to the potential of lawsuit by ordering tests to cover all conceiveable causes of complaint CYA is SOP.

   So Psycologists would really need to report to the feds every paitient who has even the slightest potential for harm, all of them.

   Question one will become " Do you wish to purchase a firearm?"
  An affirmative reply means he should be on the "don't sell" list.

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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 12:28:27 AM »
Not all psychological maladies, not even most, are homicidal. On the other hand, a handgun is not really something a seriously depressed person should have, either.

I'd say that if someone has been committed for serious psychological problems of an antisocial or suicidal nature, it should cause that person to be on a no-buy list for handguns.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2012, 01:21:44 AM »
This makes me wonder precicely who gets put on that list as it is now.