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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: uhm my insurance cost more than obama tax penalty.
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2012, 11:44:47 AM »
We have a lack of general practitioners and an overabundance of specialists. Some of the specialists will have to give up on their delusions of Uncle Scrooge and become GP's.

Doctors, especially specialists, are overpaid by international standards.

We can't afford to pay them all that they demand.
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« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2012, 12:24:10 PM »
Actually that's one of the main causes of doctors not getting hired.

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« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2012, 07:13:57 PM »
But doesn't explain the severe shortage of Dr's we will have under Obamacare
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« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2012, 07:53:56 PM »
Doctors do get around , lots of the Dr.s here grew up and went to school a long way from here, it must be one of the worlds most portable skills.

If Doctors feel welcome where they are , they run their business and the people in range benefit.

If Doctors get a better deal from moving , why shouldn't they?

Whether Obamacare is repealed or not , we need to insure that the right number of talented people become Doctors and come here, in recent years we have been practicly outsorcing the development of the talent then importing it.

  Don't forget the tecnical staff and nurses that make each doctor more effective.

Would we get a good bang for buck by subsidiseing medical training for the specialitys that are not covered well?

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« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2012, 08:24:08 PM »
In the future, we will get better care, and much of it will be delivered by qualified nurse practitioners, midwives and other non- doctors. New equipment will improve both diagnoses and treatments.

I went to Dr Kamerman for 15 years, He had a single practice and he never kept anyone waiting more than 20 minutes. His office staff could give shots and use the EKG without any pain involved. He was exactly three months older than I.

One day he told me that he had to lose 15 pounds immediately or he would die. He had a very convincing look of terror in his eyes.  He weighed over 250 and was about 5'8" tall.

Two months later, my Medicare Plan told me he was no longer on the list. What had happened was that he died.

He always made a perfect diagnosis. He always cured my every ailment with every prescription. He told me that I must be having leg cramps before I could mention it, and then prescribed a cure, which, of course, worked.

He was married to a Panamanian woman who was an awful cook, he said. They ate out a lot, which was no good for his diet, His wife's family was close to Manuel Noriega's family. Before the invasion of Panama, a couple of FBI spooks grilled him for four hours about Noriega. He could only tell them that Noriega liked Inca Cola and Malbec wine. He did not discuss politics with Dr Kamerman. They were both fond of fishing for large fish, swordfish and sawfish, which they caught and released.

Kamerman had a sign in his office announcing that he had no medical malpractice insurance at all, because he could not afford it without doubling his rates. He had the examination routine down pat, it never varied as to what he did and in what order.

My new doctor is an Iranian fellow, very professional, but sort of a dead fish as a personality goes.

Kamerman billed $55 per visit to those without insurance. The County clinic charged $90 and made you wait for hours.

If you told him you missed a dose of his prescription, he would look you in the eye and tell you that he did not want patients that thought they knew better than he did. I heard him tell several patients this while I was getting weighted or hooked up to the EKG.

I never missed a dose of anything, because I have always assumed that the doctor is an expert. The worst experiences I have had with doctors' offices  has been with bossy fat Queen Bee types running the appointments desk. I have abandoned three doctors who had such people running the office.
 

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« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2012, 08:46:02 PM »
In the future, we will get better care, and much of it will be delivered by qualified nurse practitioners, midwives and other non- doctors.

Actually quite the polar opposite, as we watch the "crown" of universal healthcare, England's, tear its country's economic stability apart, and quality in care nosedives.  More patients, less dr's, less quality in healtcare professionals, and less incentive to research and develop new equipment.  But dammit, we're going to get everyone covered, and to hell with the Constitution or the consequences

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« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2012, 12:44:41 AM »
Er....
England HAS no Constitution.

Just like Israel.

Why is it you ratbag rightwingers never take on how bad universal healthcare in Israel?
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« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2012, 01:29:30 AM »
How is healthcare paid for in Israel?

I havent heard this one.

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« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2012, 02:11:08 AM »
Er....
England HAS no Constitution.

Where did I ever claim they did??  I'd be referring to the lunatic left in this country

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« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2012, 08:54:19 AM »
Israel has universal healthcare. Even wounded terrorists get treated for free.

Of course, that could not happen without YOUR tax dollars.
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