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A Lost Civilization
« on: December 09, 2012, 05:52:27 PM »
A Lost Civilization
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: December 8, 2012
WASHINGTON

MY college roommates and I used to grocery shop and cook together. The only food we seemed to agree on was corn, so we ate a lot of corn.

My mom would periodically call to warn me in a dire tone, “Do you know why the Incas are extinct?”

Her maize hazing left me with a deeply ingrained fear of being part of a civilization that was obliviously engaging in behavior that would lead to its extinction.

Too bad the Republican Party didn’t have my mom to keep it on its toes. Then it might not have gone all Apocalypto on us — becoming the first civilization in modern history to spiral the way of the Incas, Aztecs and Mayans.

The Mayans were right, as it turns out, when they predicted the world would end in 2012. It was just a select world: the G.O.P. universe of arrogant, uptight, entitled, bossy, retrogressive white guys.

Just another vanishing tribe that fought the cultural and demographic tides of history.

Someday, it will be the subject of a National Geographic special, or a Mel Gibson movie, where archaeologists piece together who the lost tribe was, where it came from, and what happened to it. The experts will sift through the ruins of the Reagan Presidential Library, Dick Cheney’s shotgun casings, Orca poll monitoring hieroglyphics, remnants of triumphal rants by Dick Morris on Fox News, faded photos of Clint Eastwood and an empty chair, and scraps of ancient tape in which a tall, stiff man, his name long forgotten, gnashes his teeth about the 47 percent of moochers and the “gifts” they got.

Instead of smallpox, plagues, drought and Conquistadors, the Republican decline will be traced to a stubborn refusal to adapt to a world where poor people and sick people and black people and brown people and female people and gay people count.

As the historian Will Durant observed, “A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.”

President Obama’s victory margin is expanding, as more votes are counted. He didn’t just beat Romney; he’s still beating him. But another sign of the old guard’s denial came on Friday, a month after the election, when the Romney campaign ebulliently announced that it raised $85.9 million in the final weeks of the campaign, making its fund-raising effort “the most successful in Republican Party history.”

Why is the Romney campaign still boasting? You can’t celebrate at a funeral. Go away and learn how to crunch data on the Internet.

Outside the Republican walled kingdom of denial and delusion, everyone else could see that the once clever and ruthless party was behaving in an obtuse and outmoded way that spelled doom.

The G.O.P. put up a candidate that no one liked or understood and ran a campaign that no one liked or understood — a campaign animated by the idea that indolent, grasping serfs must be kept down, even if it meant creating barriers to letting them vote.

Although Stuart Stevens, the Romney strategist, now claims that Mitt “captured the imagination of millions” and ran “with a natural grace,” there was very little chance that the awkward gazillionaire was ever going to be president. Yet strangely, Republicans are still gobsmacked by their loss, grasping at straws like Sandy as an excuse.

Some G.O.P. House members continue to try to wrestle the president over the fiscal cliff. Romney wanders in a daze, his hair not perfectly gelled. And his campaign advisers continue to express astonishment that a disastrous campaign, convention and candidate, as well as a lack of familiarity with what Stevens dismissively calls “whiz-bang turnout technologies,” could possibly lead to defeat.

Who would ever have thought blacks would get out and support the first black president? Who would ever have thought women would shy away from the party of transvaginal probes? Who would ever have thought gays would work against a party that treated them as immoral and subhuman? Who would have ever thought young people would desert a party that ignored science and hectored on social issues? Who would ever have thought Latinos would scorn a party that expected them to finish up their chores and self-deport?

Republicans know they’re in trouble when W. emerges as the moral voice of the party. The former president lectured the G.O.P. on Tuesday about being more “benevolent” toward immigrants.

As Eva Longoria supersedes Karl Rove as a power player, Republicans act as shellshocked as the Southern gentry overrun by Yankee carpetbaggers in “Gone with the Wind.” As the movie eulogized: “Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave. Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.”

Gun sales have burgeoned since the president’s re-election, with Black Friday weapons purchases setting records as the dead-enders rush to arm themselves.

But history will no doubt record that withering Republicans were finally wiped from the earth in 2016 when the relentless (and rested) Conquistadora Hillary marched in, General Bill on a horse behind her, and finished them off.

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Re: A Lost Civilization
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2012, 06:03:58 PM »
Eighteen million dollars were insufficient to convince voters to reelect the loudmouth Alan West.

What we see here is the whigification of the GOP.
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Re: A Lost Civilization
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2012, 08:04:14 PM »
We know the dems can win elections, but can they govern?

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2012, 08:46:56 PM »
They can certainly blame all of their troubles on the party out of power .

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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 11:37:54 PM »
In the case of President Obama,the GOP has much of the blame for things going poorly. All that crap about the debt ceiling was totally unnecessary and damaged this country.

Republicans think that government is always incompetent and evil, so they should not try to run a government. No sane person would take his car to a mechanic that thought that cars could not be repaired.

Government is NOT the problem REPUBLICAN government is the problem.

Right here in Florida, Rick Scott i s proving that this is true. What a dick!
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2012, 12:02:27 AM »
That's what killed them. They've been in denial with all that government is evil stuff since at least Franklin D. Roosevelt, and some say since Teddy Roosevelt. 


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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2012, 12:41:46 AM »
As per usual XO misleadingly portrays the problem as the mechanic who doesn't believe cars can be fixed. That isn't it at all.

The GOP believes that cars can be fixed but that it shouldn't cost 10 million dollars to change a sparkplug. Nor does the GOP believe that you must have a mechanic change that sparkplug when the car owner is quite capable of changing it themselves. Nor does the GOP believe that the only source for sparkplugs should be the government.

When XO talks about the GOP and federal government employees he always points to the DMV's, conveniently leaving out the fact that DMV employees work for the state and not the feds.

The dems think that raising taxes on the rich will wipe out the deficit. Let the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone and let the dems explain where their calculations went wrong.







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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2012, 01:05:17 AM »
100% agree.  Let the Dems be married to the tax increases, and see where it gets them.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2012, 01:11:44 AM »
  It is sometimes hard to beleive that the Democrats are doing any thinking.

  It is all availible in black and white, the tax increases that are possible to do , do not reverse the deficit .

  President Obama is insulting everyones intelligence with his tax proposal , which if it were passed exactly as he wishes , would hardly finance the government for a week.

    Then if we return everyones taxes to the level that we had during the Clinton administration, the tax recipt would not be equal to the governments requirement because entitlement programs have grown since then and the tax base has shrunk.

     These are simple concepts , that you do not fill a huge crater with a spoon full, or that you cannot replace the flow of a river with the flow from a small pipe.

     You can indeed get by on charm , apparently you can be elected to head the most powerfull government of all time purely on charm.

     But you cannot balance the books on charm, even if you have a class to scapegoat also.

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Re: A Lost Civilization
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 01:41:38 AM »
Lets do nothing but cuts. No revenue enhancement, just cuts. Then lets see who starts talking about class.

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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2012, 01:54:58 AM »
Lets do nothing but cuts. No revenue enhancement, just cuts. Then lets see who starts talking about class.

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I hate with a passion the whole idea of class warfare.

Cuts are impossible to avoid , tho they can be disguised.

How did you like President Clintons cuts on Social security?

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2012, 02:10:59 AM »
Lets do nothing but cuts. No revenue enhancement, just cuts. Then lets see who starts talking about class.

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I'm game.  Now that we have B on board, start with tax rate cuts to start churning the economic machine and getting some serious job expansion, and the subsequent increase in some much needed tax generating revenue, with the increase in employment #'s.  Then we can start reforming Government to work more efficiently for us, and not strangle us.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2012, 03:54:33 AM »
There was a time when neither budget cuts nor tax increases were really necessacery.

When Grham-Rudman was passed it was accepted that just keeping the government expenditures the same for a number of years would allow the rest of the economy to over grow and overtake .

Too bad we could not stick with a plan like that through a boom time .

We have wasted a lot of oppurtunitys.