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IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« on: May 22, 2013, 01:59:06 PM »
Pretty good timeline; link

Missing from this timeline is the recently disclosed news that the IRS completed an internal investigation in May, 2012 that raised similar concerns that the Treasury IG raised in his report in April, 2013. As we learn more information we will probably learn that Lois Lerner buried this internal report and that is why she is pleading the 5th in testimony today.

The reason is obvious. Lerner in the IRS scandal, Holder in Fast and Furious, Clinton in Benghazi, etc. were all covering for Obama and trying to help his reelection
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 11:32:41 AM »
If the president is innocent, he will end up needing and wanting a special prosecutor sooner rather than later. If he and his White House already have too much to hide, then they must clam up, cry partisanship and hope their allies on the Hill and in the media have the stamina for the long, hard slog ahead.
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 06:49:39 PM »
There WILL BE NO special prosecutor, nor should there be.

There is no reason why any bunch of clowns like the 'baggers who want to spread propaganda with money that is tax deductible.

Fuck 'em and fuck the horse they rode in on. Twice, nay thrice.
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2013, 08:00:51 PM »
Amazing how more and more Dems and members of the MSM are apparently becoming baggers
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2013, 10:29:11 PM »
That would be only in your twisted tiny mind, sirs.
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2013, 10:35:42 PM »
No, that would be in this sick and twisted country....at least the current manifestation of our Government.  Reality, I'm afraid, can look pretty damn ugly.  No wonder so many folks on the left try to avoid it, like the plague
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2013, 05:37:45 PM »
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2013, 11:47:37 PM »
NOT ONE liberal has become an idiot bagger, sirs. Not one.
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 12:01:19 AM »
Do you mean that there are no liberal idiots?

Or that it is impossible to become what one is?

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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 02:46:02 AM »
But the claim was folks, as in teabaggers, were throwing around the notion/need of a special prosecutor, that the WH has NOT been forthcoming & transparent, and that this targeting of conservative groups was wholly inappropriate, if not unethical.  I was referencing there are multiple Dems and folks in the MSM who are making those references now, so per your parameters, they must be teabaggers
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 07:05:08 PM »
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 03:38:08 PM »
Nice.............     >:(
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Re: IRSGate...what we know now, of who knew what & when
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 06:32:46 PM »
In recent days, Americans have been taken aback by the actions of taxpayer-funded, government bureaucrats at the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) who have targeted individuals and groups with whom they disagree with politically. It’s the sort of conduct one would expect to read about in other countries, but certainly not the United States.

Whether it’s requiring individuals and groups to provide unnecessary or proprietary information or how that information was used, the rights of Americans and their privacy were violated. To hear the Obama Administration, one would think this is an isolated event which is not at all reflective of their values or conduct. Unfortunately, this is simply inconsistent with the facts.

In fact, the IRS is even facing a class action lawsuit which alleges more than 60 million personal medical records were improperly seized by representatives of the federal agency.

If there’s one thing we know, Americans value their privacy and the confidential nature of information related to their lives and that of their families. But that same concern has not been exhibited by the Obama Administration. Along with the reckless actions of the IRS, another example is presented in the track record of the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB).
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In 2012, in an interview with The Associated Press, the Board’s Chairman Mark Pearce stated he intended to “requir[e] businesses to hand over lists of employee phone numbers and emails to union leaders before an election.”
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Why would union bosses need access to personal worker contact information? What right do they have to that information? Was the employee information provided to the employer with the expectation that it would be disseminated to others or used only when necessary, for instance, in emergency situations?

I think all of us know the answers to these questions. No one provides their mobile phone numbers or personal email addresses to their boss with the expectation he will share them with outside groups, particularly those engaged in persuasion campaigns.

How will labor bosses use that information? History is prologue in this matter. There is no other purpose for union organizers to have this information other than to initiate contact outside the workplace with employees they are seeking to organize.

Consider what we know. Labor organizers have routinely showed up at people’s homes when attempting to unionize a business. They even pay folks a visit on weekends. They send emails. They call workers incessantly, whether they’re on the way to work or have just arrived home.

Most people would view this as a gross violation of their personal space. They would see this for what it is, intimidation and bullying. Yet Chairman Pearce is not at all concerned with the ramifications of his actions. He doesn’t seem to care that moms and dads will have to deal with the unnecessary aggravation of labor organizers contacting them using personal contact information obtained because a government bureaucrat decided to reward his former clients – union bosses.

What is striking though is how the Obama Administration has demonstrated little to no regard for the privacy of our nation’s citizens. Time and again, federal agencies have abused the rights of people and misused their information.

For those watching the developing news concerning the IRS, they should be appalled, but not at all surprised. Under this President, the conduct we are watching has not become the exception, but the rule. Whether it’s President Obama’s IRS or NLRB, both place politics and special interests above the rights and safety of the American taxpayers who are paying their salaries
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