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Israel bombs Russian top-line missiles sent to Syria & Hizballah
« on: December 08, 2014, 07:48:29 AM »
Us Mid-East sources:
Israel's air strikes hit Russian top-line air defense missiles sent to Syria & Hizballah

DEBKAfile Special Report

December 7, 2014, 10:18 PM (IDT)

Israel's air strikes near Damascus international air port and the Syrian-Lebanese border Sunday, Dec. 7, are depicted by Middle East military and intelligence sources as Israel's first overt military clash with Russia in the course of the more than three-year Syrian war. Those sources assert that the strikes demolished components of Russian SA-25 or other types of top-line anti air missile systems that Moscow had destined for Syria and the Lebanese Hizballah terrorist group.

Russian transport planes are said to have shipped these consignments in the last few days to the military section of Damascus international airport. It was pointed out that the Israeli air strikes occurred less than 24 hours after Deputy Russian Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov, the Kremlin's point man for the Syrian war, met with Hizballah leader Hassan Nasrallah Saturday in Beirut. The Russians for the first time insisted on widely circulating photos of the two officials shaking hands.

Israeli military and intelligence sources have not confirmed this account. However, DEBKAfile's sources have learned that Moscow has been looking for a reckoning with the US and Israel over the fall in the last week of October of the large Russian intelligence post at Tel a-Hara in southern Syria to Syrian rebel units. One of the most highly sophisticated Russian intelligence bases outside its borders, the secret site was located strategically close to the junction of Syria's borders with Jordan and Israel.

The prized hi-tech apparatus, much of it unfamiliar to Western spy agencies, was quickly shipped out of Syria for examination in the West.

Other Israeli air force targets struck near Damascus airport in Sunday's raid were the 103rd brigade of the 4th Division, which is the Syrian president' republican guard, and the same division?s logistic rear base at Dimas near the Lebanese border.

The fact that Israel conducted air strikes against two facilities of the same Syrian army division along the route to Lebanon indicates that the targeted weapons were on their way from Syria to Hizballah strongholds in Lebanon.

DEBKAfile reported earlier Sunday:

Syrian TV and Hizballah sources accused Israel Sunday evening, Dec. 7 of carrying out air strikes against two government-held areas - near the Syrian capital's international airport and Dimas, a town near the Lebanese border. Hizballah sources also reported that Israel jets attacked military targets close to the Lebanese border and the old Damascus-Beirut highway. Both claimed that there were no casualties. Israel military sources declined to comment on these reports.

One target is said to have been a warehouse at Damascus airport which Israel has bombed in the past to demolish advanced weapons consignments bound for the Lebanese Hizballah. The site at Dimas was a military position. Whether it was manned by Syrian or Hizballah troops is unknown.

Syrian and Lebanese sources claim Israeli planes launched at least 10 strikes.

The last Israeli air raid took place in March against military positions in the Quneitra region on the Syrian side of the Golan.



http://www.debka.com/article/24287/Mid-East-sources-Israel%E2%80%99s-air-strikes-hit-Russian-top-line-air-defense-missiles-sent-to-Syria-Hizballah
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Re: Israel bombs Russian top-line missiles sent to Syria & Hizballah
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2014, 06:48:04 PM »
   This is a lot easier than shooting the missile down while it is in flight.

    So, ....

    They have bombed this same warehouse before?

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Re: Israel bombs Russian top-line missiles sent to Syria & Hizballah
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2014, 09:16:10 PM »
Israel air strikes wiped out Russian
hardware for thwarting US no-fly zone plan over Syria


DEBKAfile Special Report

December 8, 2014, 9:07 PM


Israel jets bombing Syrian targets

High-ranking American military sources revealed Monday, Dec. 8, that Israel's air strikes near Damascus the day before wiped out newly-arrived Russian hardware including missiles that were dispatched post haste to help Syria and Hizballah frustrate a US plan for a no-fly zone over northern Syria.

The advanced weapons were sent over, as DEBKAfile reported exclusively Sunday, after Russian President Vladimir Putin learned that the Obama administration and the Erdogan government were close to a final draft on a joint effort to activate a no-fly zone that would bar Syrian air force traffic over northern Syria.

The Kremlin has repeatedly warned, of late in strong messages through back channels, that the establishment of a no-fly or buffer zone in any part of Syria would be treated as direct American intervention in the Syria war and result in Russian military intervention for defending the Assad regime.

According to the US-Turkish draft, American warplanes would be allowed to take off from the Turkish airbase of Incirlik in the south for operations against Syrian warplanes, assault helicopters or drones entering the no-go zone. Thus far, Ankara has only permitted US surveillance aircraft and drones the use of Incirlik for tracking the movements of Islamic State fighters in northern Syria.

The Obama administration was long deterred from implementing a no-fly zone plan by the wish to avoid riling Moscow or facing the hazards of Syria?s world-class air defense system.

But Washington was recently won over to the plan by a tacit deal with Damascus for American jets to be allowed entry to help Kurdish fighters defend their northern Syrian enclave of Kobani against capture by al Qaeda's IS invaders.

However, the US administration turned down a Turkish demand to extend the no-fly zone from their border as far as Aleppo, Syria's largest city, over which Syrian army forces are battling rebels and advancing slowly into the town.

The no-fly zone planned by US strategists would be narrow, between a kilometer and half a kilometer deep inside Syria. However Moscow is standing fast against any such plan and objects to US planes making free of Syrian airspace, a freedom they are now afforded over Kobani.

To drive this point home, the Russians delivered a supply of advanced anti-air missiles and radar, whose use by the Syrian army and transfer to Hizballah in Lebanon were thwarted by the Israeli air strikes Sunday. 

Moscow reacted swiftly and angrily with a Note to the United Nations Monday accusing Israel of "aggressive action" and demanding "that such attacks should not happen again" Moscow is deeply worried by this dangerous development, the circumstances of which demand an explanation."

The Assad regime has held back from reacting to past Israeli air raids for preventing advanced weaponry from reaching Hizballah. This time, spokesmen in Damascus warned that their government?s response would be clandestine and cause Israel "unimaginable harm."

http://www.debka.com/article/24289/Israel-air-strikes-wiped-out-Russian-hardware-for-thwarting-US-no-fly-zone-plan-over-Syria
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Re: Israel bombs Russian top-line missiles sent to Syria & Hizballah
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 09:01:56 AM »
This is just fine so long as Syria or Russia does not bomb some Israeli weapons facility.
At that point, it becomes a stupid and risky act.
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Re: Israel bombs Russian top-line missiles sent to Syria & Hizballah
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 12:28:12 PM »
This is just fine so long as Syria or Russia does not bomb some Israeli weapons facility.
At that point, it becomes a stupid and risky act.

This is probably more of the Oligarchy directing Obama to continue the war
against those pushing for an alternative world currency to the US Dollar.


"Right now, the US Dollar makes up 2/3rds of the worlds global reserve currency.
This is because nearly every oil-exporting country in the world exclusively sells their oil in dollars, so nations are forced to hoard large amounts of the dollar.
There are two countries that don't sell their oil in the dollar: Syria, and Iran.

If these two countries joined forces, got Venezuela on their side, maybe a few other countries, and then made an economic treaty with the BRICS nations, an acronym for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, to buy their oil in a currency other than the US dollar, the economy would collapse

All countries in the world would send their massive hoards of the dollar back to the Fed in exchange for whichever currency replaces it. The value of the dollar would shrink dramatically and the Fed would be forced to take steps to shrink the money supply to stem massive inflation. The raising of the Federal Funds rate would mean that there would not be enough new loans created to pay off old loans (which is necessary, because there is always more debt in the economy than there is money, because money is created with interest attached, from the very beginning we are all indebted to a small cabal that sits behind the federal reserve). The defaulting of loans would lead to a chain reaction that would collapse the $700,000,000,000,000 derivatives market. In addition, the Fed wouldn't be able to mindlessly pump money into the economy anymore such as with their current policy of quantitative easing.

In 2001, Iraq began selling their oil in the Euro. We invaded.

In 2010 Gaddafi proposed a new currency called the Gold Dinar to replace the dollar for oil sales.
We bombed the shit out of his country and caused a regime change.

Syria moved away from the Dollar in 06 and Iran in 08. That is what this is all about.

There are other geopolitical objectives, sure, such as the pipeline that Syria signed with Iran instead of the US friendly Qatar, but the Petrodollar is the king.
 It is literally the only reason the dollar and US economy is stable. The entirety of the Western financial elite need the Petrodollar system and they are willing
 to go to war and kill millions to defend it."


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/09/1237500/-The-PetroDollar-Why-Syria#
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Re: Israel bombs Russian top-line missiles sent to Syria & Hizballah
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2014, 02:31:52 PM »
I don't think so.

I agree that the US does not want people buying oil in anything but dollars, but the Israelis bombing Russian weapons in Syria is pretty clearly motivated by the Israelis not wanting those weapons use against them.

Both US political parties listen very carefully to the advice of Big Oil. But this is not about oil at all.
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Re: Israel bombs Russian top-line missiles sent to Syria & Hizballah
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2014, 06:50:30 PM »
I agree that the US does not want people buying oil in anything but dollars,
but the Israelis bombing Russian weapons in Syria is pretty clearly motivated by the Israelis not wanting those weapons use against them.

But why does Syria need the weapons?
Because the US has been encouraging Assad to go and helping people trying to overthrow him.
Why is the US doing this? Why did Assad suddenly need to go? He's been bad for years.
What changed?
There are lots and lots of mean leaders in this world.
Ummmm but not all mean leaders are siding with Putin and Iran trying to get the world away from paying in dollars.
I am not saying this as fact.....but I think it is entirely possible....Syria is a part of a larger proxy war.

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Re: Israel bombs Russian top-line missiles sent to Syria & Hizballah
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2014, 09:52:03 PM »
I think that the desire to get rid of Assad came from the Syrian people.he promised reforms over and over and did nothing. When Tunisia overthrew its dictator, Syrians thought it would be a fairly quick and easy project. They were obviously wrong, but the struggle continued.

The Israelis would like a weakened Syria for obvious reasons, but I do not think prolonging the Syrian civil war is within Israel's power. 
It is pretty obvious why Syria needs weapons: they want to stop the insurrections.

Syria may become a proxy war,  but it certainly did not start out that way.

Iran cannot do anything with dollars due to restrictions put into force by the US.

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