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William Odom
« on: February 15, 2007, 10:19:06 PM »
DISPENSE WITH ILLUSIONS ABOUT IRAQ - REORGANIZE FOR STABILITY


<<The new National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq starkly delineates the gulf that separates President Bush's illusions from the realities of the war. Victory, as the president sees it, requires a stable liberal democracy in Iraq that is pro-American.  [comment:  how the hell could a liberal democracy be pro-American?  Liberals would favour the Palestinians while the Americans favour the Israelis; Liberals would favour the Kyoto Accords, while the Americans spit on the Kyoto Accords; Liberals believe in national self-determination, whereas the list of countries the U.S. has invaded and/or regime-changed would be longer than this post.  And a pro-American democracy is an absurdity. If the American invasion killed "only" 100,000 Iraqis and wounded 200,000, that's 300,000 dead and wounded.  If each of them had 100 friends and relatives, that's 30 million people with a good reason to hate America's guts.  If due to overlapping friends and family, there's only 15 million people with good reason to hate America, that's probably more than all the voters in the country.  Is Bush a "liberal democrat?"  Then why the hell would he want a liberal democracy in Iraq?]The NIE describes a war that has no chance of producing that result. In this critical respect, the NIE, the consensus judgment of all the U.S. intelligence agencies, is a declaration of defeat.

Its gloomy implications — hedged, as intelligence agencies prefer, in rubbery language that cannot soften its impact — put the intelligence community and the American public on the same page. The public awakened to the reality of failure in Iraq last year and turned the Republicans out of control of Congress to wake it up. But a majority of its members are still asleep, or only half-awake to their new writ to end the war soon.

Perhaps this is not surprising. Americans do not warm to defeat or failure, and our politicians are famously reluctant to admit their own responsibility for anything resembling those un-American outcomes.

For the moment, the collision of the public's clarity of mind, the president's relentless pursuit of defeat and Congress's anxiety has paralyzed us. We may be doomed to two more years of chasing the mirage of democracy in Iraq and possibly widening the war to Iran. But this is not inevitable. A Congress, or a president, prepared to quit the game of "who gets the blame" could begin to alter American strategy in ways that will vastly improve the prospects of a more stable Middle East.

No task is more important to the well-being of the United States. We face great peril in that troubled region, and improving its prospects will be difficult. It will require, from Congress at least, public acknowledgment that the president's policy is based on illusions, not realities. There never has been any right way to invade and transform Iraq. Two truths ought to put the matter beyond question:

• First, the assumption that the United States could create a liberal, constitutional democracy in Iraq defies just about everything known by professional students of the topic. Of the more than 40 democracies created since World War II, fewer than 10 can be considered truly "constitutional" — meaning that their domestic order is protected by a broadly accepted rule of law, and has survived for at least a generation. None is a country with Arabic and Muslim political cultures. None has deep sectarian and ethnic fissures like those in Iraq.

Strangely, American political scientists whose business it is to know these things have been irresponsibly quiet. In the lead-up to the March 2003 invasion, neoconservative agitators shouted insults at anyone who dared to mention the many findings of academic research on how democracies evolve. They also ignored our own struggles over two centuries to create the democracy Americans enjoy today.

• Second, to expect any Iraqi leader who can hold his country together to be pro-American, or to share American goals, is to abandon common sense. It took the United States more than a century to get over its hostility toward British occupation. (In 1914, a majority of the public favored supporting Germany against Britain.) Every month of the U.S. occupation, polls have recorded Iraqis' rising animosity toward the United States.

As Congress awakens to these realities — and a few members have bravely pointed them out — will it act on them? Not necessarily. Too many lawmakers have fallen for the myths that are invoked to try to sell the president's new war aims. Let us consider the most pernicious of them.

1. We must continue the war to prevent the terrible aftermath that will occur if our forces are withdrawn soon. Reflect on the double-think of this formulation. We are now fighting to prevent what our invasion made inevitable! Undoubtedly we will leave a mess — the mess we created, which has become worse each year we have remained.

2. We must continue the war to prevent Iran's influence from growing in Iraq. This is another absurd notion. One of the president's initial war aims, the creation of a democracy in Iraq, ensured increased Iranian influence, both in Iraq and the region. Electoral democracy, predictably, would put Shiite groups in power — groups supported by Iran since Saddam Hussein repressed them in 1991. Why are so many members of Congress swallowing the claim that prolonging the war is now supposed to prevent precisely what starting the war inexorably and predictably caused?

3. We must prevent the emergence of a new haven for al-Qaida in Iraq. But it was the U.S. invasion that opened Iraq's doors to al-Qaida. The longer U.S. forces have remained there, the stronger al-Qaida has become. The American presence is the glue that holds al-Qaida there now.

4. We must continue to fight in order to "support the troops." This argument effectively paralyzes almost all members of Congress. Lawmakers proclaim in grave tones a litany of problems in Iraq sufficient to justify a rapid pullout. Then they reject that logical conclusion, insisting we cannot do so because we must support the troops. Has anybody asked the troops?

During their first tours, most may well have favored "staying the course" — whatever that meant to them — but now in their second, third and fourth tours, many are changing their minds.

But the strangest aspect of this rationale for continuing the war is the implication that the troops are somehow responsible for deciding to continue the president's course. That political and moral responsibility belongs to the president, not the troops.

Embracing the four myths gives Congress excuses not to exercise its power of the purse to end the war and open the way for a strategy that might actually bear fruit.

• The first and most critical step is to recognize that fighting on now simply prolongs our losses and blocks the way to a new strategy. Withdrawal will take away the conditions that allow our enemies in the region to enjoy our pain. It will awaken those European states reluctant to collaborate with us in Iraq and the region.

• Second, we must recognize that the United States alone cannot stabilize the Middle East.

• Third, we must acknowledge that most of our policies are actually destabilizing the region.

• Fourth, we must redefine our purpose. It must be a stable region, not primarily a democratic Iraq. We can write off the war as a "tactical draw" and make "regional stability" our measure of "victory." That single step would dramatically realign the opposing forces in the region, where most states want stability.

If Bush truly wanted to rescue something of his historical legacy, he would seize the initiative to implement this kind of strategy. He would eventually be held up as a leader capable of reversing direction by turning an imminent, tragic defeat into strategic recovery.

If he stays on his present course, he will leave Congress the opportunity to earn the credit for such a turnaround. It is already too late to wait for some presidential candidate for 2008 to retrieve the situation. If Congress cannot act, it, too, will live in infamy.

William E. Odom, a retired Army lieutenant general, was head of Army intelligence and director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan. He served on the National Security Council staff under Jimmy Carter. A West Point graduate with a Ph.D. from Columbia, Odom teaches at Yale and is a fellow of the Hudson Institute. He wrote this piece for the Washington Post.
 


 


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Re: William Odom
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2007, 10:45:59 PM »
Wouldn't this strategy be counter-productive to our goal of controlling the oil

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 11:39:34 PM »
Victory, as the president sees it, requires a stable liberal democracy in Iraq that is pro-American

Tee. This is what the people of America don't get. No one wants Democracy. What they want is bondage. They want religious bondage, they want political bondage, they want cultural bondage. They want a perfect society, they want a great society. from their point of view. That is why Catholics kill Protestants. The is why Jews kill Palestinians, that is the result of bigoted, racist and prejudicial indoctrinations.

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Re: William Odom
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2007, 12:57:43 AM »

• First, the assumption that the United States could create a liberal, constitutional democracy in Iraq defies just about everything known by professional students of the topic. Of the more than 40 democracies created since World War II, fewer than 10 can be considered truly "constitutional" — meaning that their domestic order is protected by a broadly accepted rule of law, and has survived for at least a generation. None is a country with Arabic and Muslim political cultures. None has deep sectarian and ethnic fissures like those in Iraq.

Strangely, American political scientists whose business it is to know these things have been irresponsibly quiet. In the lead-up to the March 2003 invasion, neoconservative agitators shouted insults at anyone who dared to mention the many findings of academic research on how democracies evolve. They also ignored our own struggles over two centuries to create the democracy Americans enjoy today.


    Are Arabs geneticly inferior?

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Re: William Odom
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2007, 09:37:34 AM »
<<Are Arabs geneticly inferior?>>

Sure.  If they don't rush to adopt the form of government that you have so thoughtfully selected for them, they MUST be genetically inferior.

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Re: William Odom
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2007, 09:38:53 AM »
<<Wouldn't this strategy be counter-productive to our goal of controlling the oil>>

Sure it would.  Makes ya wonder, why does General Odom hate America?

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Re: William Odom
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2007, 09:41:30 AM »
<<Tee. This is what the people of America don't get. No one wants Democracy. What they want is bondage. >>

That's what made it so hilarious when Odom says that Bush's objective in Iraq is a liberal democracy.  I was practically ROTFLMFAO.  Bush?  Liberal Democracy?  It was the one comedic gaffe in an otherwise sensible article.