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sirs

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Re: How government agencys are generally run.
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2015, 10:03:21 PM »
Spoken with the truest of ignorance to matters of military and national defense.    :-\
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Re: How government agencys are generally run.
« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2015, 10:36:38 PM »
The Air Force has not done dogfights since at least Vietnam. It is a defunct military style, like trench warfare.


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No.

There have been recent dogfights and there are countries that have never sent a pilot into a dogfight that are prepared to.

Dogfighting aircraft will be known to be obsolete a few years after it becomes true.

Drones are not ready, even if they are the coming thing.

Trench warfare isn't over either, all of these situations arise from the comparison of forces, when one side is overwhelming the war can be short, when the sides are evenly matched the war tends to be longer.

The best reason to reduce US armed forces(in sophistication, expense and numbers) is to promote more and longer wars.

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Re: How government agencys are generally run.
« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2015, 11:05:38 AM »
Preparing for trench warfare is not as expensive as $35 million aircraft. The airforce likes fighter jets because they are sooooo cool. The Navy was surely most unhappy when they had to give up battleships, but they got aircraft carriers and a bazillion smaller ships to run support, But the planes we now have are entirely useful for any possible dogfighting needs that might arise, or can be modified more cheaply that building $35 million fighters. The expensive new planes are being built because Boeing wants to make some profit. The Military Industrial Complex is alive and well and wasting everyone's our money for no good reason.
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Re: How government agencys are generally run.
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2015, 07:47:45 PM »
  You don't seem to understand.

  There is no "adequate" ,except enough to come in first.

   When Israel and Egypt last fought there were dozens of dogfights , and Israeli aircraft were better and their pilots were in better practice, it hardly mattered that the Egyptians had a  numerical advantage, it was not enough, and dozens of Egyptian pilots won second place in those dogfights.

    Don't start thinking that the Egyptians were timid or flying obsolete aircraft , this would not be true , they were good , but there is no good enough until you are good enough to survive.



On the subject of Trench warfare, that stuff was obsolete and undesired in 1900, but how much does one party control the course of a war?


    Battleships became obsolete because it was hard to keep aircraft off of them, better AA could bring them back. When beam weapons and rail guns make it hard to get an aircraft into range, then battleships will have another era.

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