What is the strategy in Syria?

[Xavier_Onassis]

The Iraqis asked for the US to set a date for withdrawal and to obey it. So it was not Obama's fault.

The main reason people join the military is not because they are patriots, or because they are brave, it is because they are hungry and needy and need a job.  This is universally true, with the exception of people who are from military families who joint the military out of family tradition. In Iraq there were a lot of such men, but they were all Sunnis. The Shias were not accepted into Saddam's upper echelon.

It does not matter what you, sirs would do. The Shia cut and run and left their weapons behind because they valued their own lives over the nation of Iraq. Loyalty in Iraq was more to the sect and tribe than to the country. Iraq is an artificial country whose borders were set by the French and the British.

[sirs]

The Iraqis asked for the US to set a date for withdrawal and to obey it. So it was not Obama's fault.

Please show us this factoid.  Otherwise, it is Obama's fault. 

And your opinion on why paintbrushing most everyone joins the military is ludicrous to begin with.  Yes, many do for improved security in food & housing.  Many others join for many other reasons, especially that of patriotism to country

And you asked me what I'd do, so apparently it did matter to the unsubstantiated claim you were pushing.  Facts are a tough thing to swallow sometimes.  So much easier to rationalize something that fits your template, isn't it.  Fact is, had we not left prematurely, as Bush warned us about, ISIS would likely be even less than a JV team, at this point, with all those weapons still in the hands of the Iraqi military and US forces still there

[Plane]

The Iraqis asked for the US to set a date for withdrawal and to obey it. So it was not Obama's fault.

This should not have been their shot to call. Weren't there a lot of Iraqis that invited us to stay home in the first place?

The main reason people join the military is not because they are patriots, or because they are brave, it is because they are hungry and needy and need a job.  This is universally true, with the exception of people who are from military families who joint the military out of family tradition. In Iraq there were a lot of such men, but they were all Sunnis. The Shias were not accepted into Saddam's upper echelon.

It does not matter what you, sirs would do. The Shia cut and run and left their weapons behind because they valued their own lives over the nation of Iraq. Loyalty in Iraq was more to the sect and tribe than to the country. Iraq is an artificial country whose borders were set by the French and the British.

Needing a job is a reason to join the military, but it is the main reason for very few.

The military are kinda picky these days and not interested in ignorant or dull soldiers, dropouts usually don't pass the bar. Convicts and poorly adjusted individuals aren't needed either.

If you can become a Ranger you can become anything.

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   The US can be divided into more tribes than Iraq.
    Political advantage accrues to politicians who skillfully wedge the factions apart here too.

     Tribalism is not a good excuse , even if they must split this does not necessarily require war.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Needing a job is a major reason for Americans trying to enlist. But in this case, I was referring to Iraqis joining the Iraqi Army.

[sirs]

Still doesn't defacto make someone a coward, just because they do