So NOT surprising when unable to make a substantive response to the point being made, you throw out one that no one is making....like I'm here to try and change your mind. I'd have better fortunes potty training a stray dog with urinary incontinence
News flash professor.....I will ALWAYS and FOREVER expect your mind to be welded shut, as in I'm not expecting to change it in any way, so there's nothing to "give up" in that matter. My efforts are to convey to others who respond, read, or even just visit the saloon, the other side of your close minded liberal side of.....everything
But rest assured, my mother always wanted me....and my brother....and my sister, so need to apologize for yet another non-event